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kick it , its easy he missed, but I agree with the call. |
When Payton opted to kick on 1st down, I was happy...didn't want to take a chance on a fumble or a pick. When he missed, I changed my mind.
Hindsight is 20/20. |
pound the rock till the clowns stop us, thats all i expected from coach. pound pt. till we are 4th down or td the hell with kicking it. we saw what could have happened from the last few games. and guess what were 2-1 not a crucial 3-0 and still ahead of the clowns. my take any way.
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I'd rather have the ball in Brees' hands for 3 more plays than a shaky kicker for one. |
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I have to say, regardless of the circumstance, I'm a little "shakey" when it comes to Hartley this season.
He just has not looked as solid as last season. Yes he won it for us last week, but as someone pointed out, that kick looked tipped. He could be our weakness this season. |
its hard to believe that payton lost faith in us holding on to the ball. it was a rookie he trusted to put in the game. ivory loss it. okay thats ivory not pt not evans not betts. on the other hand hartly missed more than we put the ball on the ground. and he went hartly and we missed it and were mad because of it. and it will all go away next week. but we can be upset. and should we bring in another kicker.
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I'd call that shaky. |
Bye Hartley it was fun while it lastest. Cut him first thing tomorrow. So who is on the wavier wire.
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I trust Brees and his boys on 1st down at the 12 more than just about any kicker. |
Look at the game winning field goal against the 49ers and then look at the one he missed today. The look almost identical. He's overcompensating for something but coach should have corrected that after last game when he almost missed that one.
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Bring in who? What kicker that's so good is just sitting at home waiting for a call from an NFL team? I'm being serious, I don't know of anyone just "available" off top of my head. They're all playing for other NFL teams. |
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in 2009 vinatieri got colts into the SB, this the road we want to take? hartley Fd up, we lost, it was an easy kick, he Fd up |
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Offense looked inoffensive at times. We didn't run the ball very much or very effectively- 16 attempts for 43 yards. We lived and died by the home run ball, and that killed us. Yes, Lance Moore had an 80 yard grab for a TD, but Brees also gave up an INT on a deep pass, which just killed the drive, and a couple more missed/dropped deep balls which led to 3 and outs. Penalties! Stupid penalties all over the field. How man pass interference calls were there on us? Ayodele's horse collar tackle on 2-1 from our 1, it would have been 3rd-1 instead of 1-1. Time of Possession: ATL 45:50 NOR 27:15. If you can't continue drives, you can't score points. We beat ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame, NOT JUST the kicker. The return game was kind of our only bright spot. Moore's return in the 1st quarter set us up for an easy 6 yard drive to score. |
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I'm simply against taking the ball out of Drews hands on 1st down and giving the ball to a kicker who's 3-5 for the year. If it was 4th down, or probably 3rd, I'd have given it to Hartley, but not 1st down. |
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OK...it's over...everybody's sad and frustrated...understandable...so just step back, take a deep breath, and listen to this message from the Wilburys...
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were'nt they the who
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its in Hartley head, he just keeps kicking bad. 29 yards!!!!!!!! you could pick 50 college kickers out of a hat and all 50 of them will drill that kick!! Hartleys a pro and hes not acting like it. Sean P better make sure hes worth keeping around.
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He had some "big play" goals, but he really does suck. Whats his % this year, it cant be over %70? And I mean with in 40 yards! |
What about Kris Brown. He is a pretty solid Place kicker, he just got beat out by Neil Rackers. Bring him in for a tire check. Lots of experience.
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I maybe bring someone in to let him know we are serious. Maybe just work a few guys out.
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R.I.P Hartley's career in N.O.
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I think we need to at least start looking at other available kickers. Hartley is just too inconsistent for me to be comfortable with. You can 't ride on his accomplishments last season. Even though we played badly in some areas, the game came down to a chip shot field goal that he missed...and that's the bottom line.
We need LSU's kicker lol |
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kris brown? hum hartly get with the program cat.
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Don't put this all on Hartley, we lost as a TEAM! |
i think payton will change his philosphy maybe. keep pounding the rock. kick on third down
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I do think he's cute, but I don't think placing the blame solely on him is right. |
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Sadly, if you could point to one play, that would be it. Sucks it came down to that. Hartley has the potential to be a good kicker. |
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