Maybe we need a new kicker.....

21Hilliard · 09-26-2010, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

hartley should have made that kick, its that simple

The defense should have played better all around. Run defense was porous. Atlanta killed us on 3rd down (something like 50% conversions), and the Falcons converted TWO 4th and 2s on that late 2nd quarter touchdown drive. The secondary was RAPED by the big play. Gonzales had a field day catching the ball, mostly in the first half, but the damage had been done.

Offense looked inoffensive at times. We didn't run the ball very much or very effectively- 16 attempts for 43 yards. We lived and died by the home run ball, and that killed us. Yes, Lance Moore had an 80 yard grab for a TD, but Brees also gave up an INT on a deep pass, which just killed the drive, and a couple more missed/dropped deep balls which led to 3 and outs.

Penalties! Stupid penalties all over the field. How man pass interference calls were there on us? Ayodele's horse collar tackle on 2-1 from our 1, it would have been 3rd-1 instead of 1-1.

Time of Possession: ATL 45:50 NOR 27:15. If you can't continue drives, you can't score points.

We beat ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame, NOT JUST the kicker.

The return game was kind of our only bright spot. Moore's return in the 1st quarter set us up for an easy 6 yard drive to score.

21Hilliard · 09-26-2010, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by strato

But despite all that ..we gave the game to Hartley and he choked..right?

But that's my point Strato, if we had taken care of things, we wouldn't have had to give the game to Hartley in the first place. Twice. Yes, Hartley blew it, but his was only the last in a string of failures all game long.

breesfan27 · 09-26-2010, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I disagreed with kicking on 1st down. We were moving the ball well. Why put it in the hands of a kicker who's looked bad all year?

Originally Posted by Cory9289

True, never know, Chris or PT coulda broke one for a TD.

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

1st down on the 11 and moving the ball well; should have just kept giving PT the ball...

Originally Posted by st thomas

they were giving up man, why not keep pounding the freakin ball they thru the damn towel in a few plays before.

Originally Posted by Crusader

No. The loss is on the team. The Saints couldn't run the ball, Brees threw 2 picks and one of the was really stupid. Ivory still has fumbling problems and the D couldn't stop anything. This loss was a team effort.

Originally Posted by 21Hilliard

The defense should have played better all around. Run defense was porous. Atlanta killed us on 3rd down (something like 50% conversions), and the Falcons converted TWO 4th and 2s on that late 2nd quarter touchdown drive. The secondary was RAPED by the big play. Gonzales had a field day catching the ball, mostly in the first half, but the damage had been done.

Offense looked inoffensive at times. We didn't run the ball very much or very effectively- 16 attempts for 43 yards. We lived and died by the home run ball, and that killed us. Yes, Lance Moore had an 80 yard grab for a TD, but Brees also gave up an INT on a deep pass, which just killed the drive, and a couple more missed/dropped deep balls which led to 3 and outs.

Penalties! Stupid penalties all over the field. How man pass interference calls were there on us? Ayodele's horse collar tackle on 2-1 from our 1, it would have been 3rd-1 instead of 1-1.

Time of Possession: ATL 45:50 NOR 27:15. If you can't continue drives, you can't score points.

We beat ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame, NOT JUST the kicker.

The return game was kind of our only bright spot. Moore's return in the 1st quarter set us up for an easy 6 yard drive to score.

ALLLLLLLL of this!

Don't put this all on Hartley, we lost as a TEAM!

foreverfan · 09-26-2010, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

ALLLLLLLL of this!

Don't put this all on Hartley, we lost as a TEAM!

Face it... you have a crush on him. You just think he's cute.

breesfan27 · 09-26-2010, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Face it... you have a crush on him. You just think he's cute.

That has nothing to do with it.

I do think he's cute, but I don't think placing the blame solely on him is right.

foreverfan · 09-26-2010, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

That has nothing to do with it.

I do think he's cute, but I don't think placing the blame solely on him is right.

I'm just playing... I couldn't agree with you more. Stuff happens.

Sadly, if you could point to one play, that would be it. Sucks it came down to that. Hartley has the potential to be a good kicker.

breesfan27 · 09-26-2010, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

I'm just playing... I couldn't agree with you more. Stuff happens.

Sadly, if you could point to one play, that would be it. Sucks it came down to that. Hartley has the potential to be a good kicker.

It does suck, and I agree he does have potential. There's nothing we can do about it now. The game is over. We just need to focus on how we're going to beat Carolina next week.

09-26-2010, 04:48 PM	#1
21Hilliard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Raised on the Bayou - living in DFW Posts: 136	Originally Posted by pherein hartley should have made that kick, its that simple The defense should have played better all around. Run defense was porous. Atlanta killed us on 3rd down (something like 50% conversions), and the Falcons converted TWO 4th and 2s on that late 2nd quarter touchdown drive. The secondary was RAPED by the big play. Gonzales had a field day catching the ball, mostly in the first half, but the damage had been done. Offense looked inoffensive at times. We didn't run the ball very much or very effectively- 16 attempts for 43 yards. We lived and died by the home run ball, and that killed us. Yes, Lance Moore had an 80 yard grab for a TD, but Brees also gave up an INT on a deep pass, which just killed the drive, and a couple more missed/dropped deep balls which led to 3 and outs. Penalties! Stupid penalties all over the field. How man pass interference calls were there on us? Ayodele's horse collar tackle on 2-1 from our 1, it would have been 3rd-1 instead of 1-1. Time of Possession: ATL 45:50 NOR 27:15. If you can't continue drives, you can't score points. We beat ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame, NOT JUST the kicker. The return game was kind of our only bright spot. Moore's return in the 1st quarter set us up for an easy 6 yard drive to score.
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09-26-2010, 04:54 PM	#2
21Hilliard 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Raised on the Bayou - living in DFW Posts: 136	Originally Posted by strato But despite all that ..we gave the game to Hartley and he choked..right? But that's my point Strato, if we had taken care of things, we wouldn't have had to give the game to Hartley in the first place. Twice. Yes, Hartley blew it, but his was only the last in a string of failures all game long.

09-26-2010, 09:03 PM	#3
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by Danno I disagreed with kicking on 1st down. We were moving the ball well. Why put it in the hands of a kicker who's looked bad all year? Originally Posted by Cory9289 True, never know, Chris or PT coulda broke one for a TD. Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| 1st down on the 11 and moving the ball well; should have just kept giving PT the ball... Originally Posted by st thomas they were giving up man, why not keep pounding the freakin ball they thru the damn towel in a few plays before. Originally Posted by Crusader No. The loss is on the team. The Saints couldn't run the ball, Brees threw 2 picks and one of the was really stupid. Ivory still has fumbling problems and the D couldn't stop anything. This loss was a team effort. Originally Posted by 21Hilliard The defense should have played better all around. Run defense was porous. Atlanta killed us on 3rd down (something like 50% conversions), and the Falcons converted TWO 4th and 2s on that late 2nd quarter touchdown drive. The secondary was RAPED by the big play. Gonzales had a field day catching the ball, mostly in the first half, but the damage had been done. Offense looked inoffensive at times. We didn't run the ball very much or very effectively- 16 attempts for 43 yards. We lived and died by the home run ball, and that killed us. Yes, Lance Moore had an 80 yard grab for a TD, but Brees also gave up an INT on a deep pass, which just killed the drive, and a couple more missed/dropped deep balls which led to 3 and outs. Penalties! Stupid penalties all over the field. How man pass interference calls were there on us? Ayodele's horse collar tackle on 2-1 from our 1, it would have been 3rd-1 instead of 1-1. Time of Possession: ATL 45:50 NOR 27:15. If you can't continue drives, you can't score points. We beat ourselves, and have only ourselves to blame, NOT JUST the kicker. The return game was kind of our only bright spot. Moore's return in the 1st quarter set us up for an easy 6 yard drive to score. ALLLLLLLL of this! Don't put this all on Hartley, we lost as a TEAM!
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09-26-2010, 09:23 PM	#4
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by breesfan27 ALLLLLLLL of this! Don't put this all on Hartley, we lost as a TEAM! Face it... you have a crush on him. You just think he's cute.

09-26-2010, 09:36 PM	#5
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by foreverfan Face it... you have a crush on him. You just think he's cute. That has nothing to do with it. I do think he's cute, but I don't think placing the blame solely on him is right.

09-26-2010, 09:53 PM	#6
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by breesfan27 That has nothing to do with it. I do think he's cute, but I don't think placing the blame solely on him is right. I'm just playing... I couldn't agree with you more. Stuff happens. Sadly, if you could point to one play, that would be it. Sucks it came down to that. Hartley has the potential to be a good kicker.

09-26-2010, 09:59 PM	#7
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by foreverfan I'm just playing... I couldn't agree with you more. Stuff happens. Sadly, if you could point to one play, that would be it. Sucks it came down to that. Hartley has the potential to be a good kicker. It does suck, and I agree he does have potential. There's nothing we can do about it now. The game is over. We just need to focus on how we're going to beat Carolina next week.

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