Kicking Situation...

Saint_LB · 10-18-2010, 02:51 PM

...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno.

Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO

dizzle88 · 10-18-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno.

Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO

That comes with the Job, every kicker no matter how consistent will miss an important kick in their career. Its a given, every QB will make a dumb throw, Every WR will drop an easy pass etc
The thing that frustrates me is that hartley has said all this stuff about he will make sure he's on top of his game from now on, then has the nerve to blame chase daniel on the miss cuz of the hold.

LBCutta · 10-18-2010, 03:13 PM

I used to live in Houston and was stuck watching the Texans on Sundays. And Kris Brown was pretty automatic inside of 45 yards.....he is 77% for his career which is pretty good. So why are we wasting our time with Hartley? Its about 5-10 kickers sitting at home that are clearly better than Hartley right now.

Cruize · 10-18-2010, 03:45 PM

I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL.

73Saint · 10-18-2010, 04:37 PM

Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

QBREES9 · 10-18-2010, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

I was on the way back from New Orleans yesterday and missed the game. Did we miss some more field goals?

Yeah but he's our kicker.

exile · 10-18-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by rfenasci

Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

Yeah I found that odd as well. Maybe Morestead still has a bit of that original injury. Hartley did good on the kickoffs though.

Beastmode · 10-18-2010, 05:31 PM

Hartley is young. Maybe he could have been more diplomatic with Chase but that comes with experience. I firmly believe it has more to do with an inexperienced holder than Hartley at this point.

dizzle88 · 10-18-2010, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

The holds look fine to me. Classy of Hartley to throw Daniel under a bus.

Yer exactly, the hold has looked fine everytime, chase Daniel is fine. Hartley needs to get his act together rather than looking for someone to blame when he misses, which is pretty much all the time now.

neugey · 10-18-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL.

That's part of the problem ... for extra-point attempts he has the ball dead center and he makes it.

We need to coach better, call a run play up the middle of the field on the 3rd down if we might have to kick on 4th. Hartley clearly has a problem with the left and right hashes.

10-18-2010, 02:51 PM	#21
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno. Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO
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10-18-2010, 02:57 PM	#22
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Originally Posted by Saint_LB ...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno. Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO That comes with the Job, every kicker no matter how consistent will miss an important kick in their career. Its a given, every QB will make a dumb throw, Every WR will drop an easy pass etc The thing that frustrates me is that hartley has said all this stuff about he will make sure he's on top of his game from now on, then has the nerve to blame chase daniel on the miss cuz of the hold.

10-18-2010, 03:45 PM	#24
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL.
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10-18-2010, 04:50 PM	#26
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Originally Posted by poydras I was on the way back from New Orleans yesterday and missed the game. Did we miss some more field goals? Yeah but he's our kicker.

10-18-2010, 05:26 PM	#27
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Originally Posted by rfenasci Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility? Yeah I found that odd as well. Maybe Morestead still has a bit of that original injury. Hartley did good on the kickoffs though.
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LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	I used to live in Houston and was stuck watching the Texans on Sundays. And Kris Brown was pretty automatic inside of 45 yards.....he is 77% for his career which is pretty good. So why are we wasting our time with Hartley? Its about 5-10 kickers sitting at home that are clearly better than Hartley right now.

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73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

10-18-2010, 05:31 PM	#28
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Hartley is young. Maybe he could have been more diplomatic with Chase but that comes with experience. I firmly believe it has more to do with an inexperienced holder than Hartley at this point.
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10-18-2010, 05:39 PM	#29
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Originally Posted by Mr Magic The holds look fine to me. Classy of Hartley to throw Daniel under a bus. Yer exactly, the hold has looked fine everytime, chase Daniel is fine. Hartley needs to get his act together rather than looking for someone to blame when he misses, which is pretty much all the time now.

10-18-2010, 05:58 PM	#30
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Originally Posted by Cruize I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL. That's part of the problem ... for extra-point attempts he has the ball dead center and he makes it. We need to coach better, call a run play up the middle of the field on the 3rd down if we might have to kick on 4th. Hartley clearly has a problem with the left and right hashes.