Kicking Situation...

Ashley · 10-18-2010, 01:42 PM

Kick him to the curb! dudes got to go

Saint_LB · 10-18-2010, 01:51 PM

...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno.

Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO

dizzle88 · 10-18-2010, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno.

Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO

That comes with the Job, every kicker no matter how consistent will miss an important kick in their career. Its a given, every QB will make a dumb throw, Every WR will drop an easy pass etc
The thing that frustrates me is that hartley has said all this stuff about he will make sure he's on top of his game from now on, then has the nerve to blame chase daniel on the miss cuz of the hold.

LBCutta · 10-18-2010, 02:13 PM

I used to live in Houston and was stuck watching the Texans on Sundays. And Kris Brown was pretty automatic inside of 45 yards.....he is 77% for his career which is pretty good. So why are we wasting our time with Hartley? Its about 5-10 kickers sitting at home that are clearly better than Hartley right now.

Cruize · 10-18-2010, 02:45 PM

I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL.

neugey · 10-18-2010, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL.

That's part of the problem ... for extra-point attempts he has the ball dead center and he makes it.

We need to coach better, call a run play up the middle of the field on the 3rd down if we might have to kick on 4th. Hartley clearly has a problem with the left and right hashes.

dizzle88 · 10-18-2010, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

That's part of the problem ... for extra-point attempts he has the ball dead center and he makes it.

We need to coach better, call a run play up the middle of the field on the 3rd down if we might have to kick on 4th. Hartley clearly has a problem with the left and right hashes.

That makes us way too predictable on O. I understand what ya mean, however for the money he's on, just at basic salary, he's gotta be money on everything 35 yards in atleast.

73Saint · 10-18-2010, 03:37 PM

Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

exile · 10-18-2010, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by rfenasci

Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

Yeah I found that odd as well. Maybe Morestead still has a bit of that original injury. Hartley did good on the kickoffs though.

Beastmode · 10-18-2010, 04:31 PM

Hartley is young. Maybe he could have been more diplomatic with Chase but that comes with experience. I firmly believe it has more to do with an inexperienced holder than Hartley at this point.

10-18-2010, 01:51 PM	#2
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno. Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO
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10-18-2010, 01:57 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Originally Posted by Saint_LB ...but Danno would never, ever waste a draft pick on a kicker. j/k, Danno. Anyway...I'm not a Hartley fan, either, and I will go on to say that I hope that we eventually can find someone consitent. However, whoever they may find and as good as his credentials may be...I guarantee you that he will eventually miss...and if he is around long enough, he will miss an important one. JMO That comes with the Job, every kicker no matter how consistent will miss an important kick in their career. Its a given, every QB will make a dumb throw, Every WR will drop an easy pass etc The thing that frustrates me is that hartley has said all this stuff about he will make sure he's on top of his game from now on, then has the nerve to blame chase daniel on the miss cuz of the hold.

10-18-2010, 02:45 PM	#5
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL.
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10-18-2010, 04:58 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Originally Posted by Cruize I think Hartley will be fine. He needs to kick field goals like he kicked extra points yesterday. Right down the middle. The best thing Payton and Brees can do now and always is make sure the game doesn't come down to the kicker. Any kicker. At any time. LOL. That's part of the problem ... for extra-point attempts he has the ball dead center and he makes it. We need to coach better, call a run play up the middle of the field on the 3rd down if we might have to kick on 4th. Hartley clearly has a problem with the left and right hashes.

10-18-2010, 05:02 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Originally Posted by neugey That's part of the problem ... for extra-point attempts he has the ball dead center and he makes it. We need to coach better, call a run play up the middle of the field on the 3rd down if we might have to kick on 4th. Hartley clearly has a problem with the left and right hashes. That makes us way too predictable on O. I understand what ya mean, however for the money he's on, just at basic salary, he's gotta be money on everything 35 yards in atleast.

10-18-2010, 01:42 PM	#1
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Kick him to the curb! dudes got to go

10-18-2010, 02:13 PM	#4
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	I used to live in Houston and was stuck watching the Texans on Sundays. And Kris Brown was pretty automatic inside of 45 yards.....he is 77% for his career which is pretty good. So why are we wasting our time with Hartley? Its about 5-10 kickers sitting at home that are clearly better than Hartley right now.

10-18-2010, 03:37 PM	#8
73Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NOLA Posts: 2,336	Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility?

10-18-2010, 04:26 PM	#9
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Originally Posted by rfenasci Hey, not to hi-jack this thread, but WTH was Hartley doing kicking off instead of Morestead? I mean, Morestead punted (once), so I know he's not injured, or is he? Isn't kickoff usually Morestead's responsibility? Yeah I found that odd as well. Maybe Morestead still has a bit of that original injury. Hartley did good on the kickoffs though.
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10-18-2010, 04:31 PM	#10
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Hartley is young. Maybe he could have been more diplomatic with Chase but that comes with experience. I firmly believe it has more to do with an inexperienced holder than Hartley at this point.
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