New Orleans Saints players say its going to be tough to change on defense

10-21-2010, 12:29 PM

James Varney, The Times-Picayune

As it was in locker rooms across the NFL on Wednesday, the chief topic of discussion at the New Orleans Saints' facility was the major fines handed down by the league in response to a handful of bone-crushing tackles last Sunday.

The Associated PressThe NFL is cracking down on dangerous hits.
After hits in Foxboro, Mass., Philadelphia and Cleveland left receivers and, in the case of Atlanta Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson, defenders sprawled on the turf in a woozy state, the league announced it will crack down on high hits it deemed outside the rules and meted out a total of $175,000 in fines.

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New Orleans Saints players say its going to be tough to change on defense | NOLA.com

st thomas · 10-21-2010, 12:53 PM

i agree with some of the comments made by the article, you are taught to wrap up all your life playing the sport. the minute you don't you become a projectile meaning a fine is coming. depending if its a shot to the head. and the best one more people miss the whole tackle trying to spearhead than wraping up and stopping the play. watered down or not i don't want to see anyones carreer come to an end, ala gay, i really think he's done forever.

darstep · 10-21-2010, 01:10 PM

When the defender goes low to make a tackle, then the ball carrier dips down to absorb the blow, does the runner get fined for causing the helmet-to-helmet? Its going to be a mess. Players will have standard court dates scheduled to plead innocent every Tuesday.

SapperSaint · 10-21-2010, 01:31 PM

Sunday is going to be very interesting to watch....

Rugby Saint II · 10-21-2010, 01:37 PM

On Showtime Sports the other night they were talking about the lack of tackling drills in the NFL. Spearing has become the norm these days. The wrap up tackle is what is needed to keep this safe. They also mentioned that rugby players have the correct technique which helps keep them healthy.

Saint_LB · 10-21-2010, 01:48 PM

Sometimes it just happens. I could bore you with a long story, but suffice it to say that I'm speaking from my own experience.

Helmets were made to protect the head and it's kinda hard to tackle without using it, IMO.

Beastmode · 10-21-2010, 01:56 PM

There is a difference between tackling and actually launching off of one or two feet to just knock the hell out of somebody or get a first down. That is a huge force multiplier when those helmets contact. Either design a better helmet with some serious R&D or make leaping and launching illegal in any form. Personally I don't see this rule changing anything other than making blatant helmet hits a serious infraction.

darstep · 10-21-2010, 02:46 PM

You know that old fight saying, "You got to bring some to get some"? None of these guys are using their own heads as a projectile to purposely impose injury to another player. Helmet to helmet bells ring both ways. Receivers that are stretched wide open on high throws across the middle for target practice is part of the game. Throw out routes if you are scared. Licks that seperate the ball are supposed to cause alligator-arms the next time through. By no means am I condoning violence on the football field, but protecting your turf and causing an opponent to hear footsteps is a big part of the game. It could get really drawn out between the referee's judgment, the league front office review, fines, suspensions, player appeals and possibly civil suits based on the rules. I can see them making an example out of someone (else), just to set the tone for this thing.

neugey · 10-22-2010, 12:03 PM

A wise person once told me "You can't legislate morality". We've seen how retarded "legislating team celebrations" has been this season. I don't think "legislating safety" is going to be any easier.

Saintswrath · 10-22-2010, 12:17 PM

The Ball Carrier should face as much adversity as the defender..
This is silly and it now gives bias ref's more ammo to dictate how they want the game to go..
The NFL is starting to be like the NBA with all these rules that could change a game in a "Favored" team favor.

10-21-2010, 12:29 PM	#1
Threaded by papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753 Rating: (0 votes - average) James Varney, The Times-Picayune As it was in locker rooms across the NFL on Wednesday, the chief topic of discussion at the New Orleans Saints' facility was the major fines handed down by the league in response to a handful of bone-crushing tackles last Sunday. The Associated PressThe NFL is cracking down on dangerous hits. After hits in Foxboro, Mass., Philadelphia and Cleveland left receivers and, in the case of Atlanta Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson, defenders sprawled on the turf in a woozy state, the league announced it will crack down on high hits it deemed outside the rules and meted out a total of $175,000 in fines. Full article below... New Orleans Saints players say its going to be tough to change on defense \| NOLA.com Last edited by papz; 12-24-2011 at 07:47 PM..
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10-21-2010, 01:48 PM	#6
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Sometimes it just happens. I could bore you with a long story, but suffice it to say that I'm speaking from my own experience. Helmets were made to protect the head and it's kinda hard to tackle without using it, IMO.
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10-21-2010, 01:56 PM	#7
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	There is a difference between tackling and actually launching off of one or two feet to just knock the hell out of somebody or get a first down. That is a huge force multiplier when those helmets contact. Either design a better helmet with some serious R&D or make leaping and launching illegal in any form. Personally I don't see this rule changing anything other than making blatant helmet hits a serious infraction.
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10-21-2010, 02:46 PM	#8
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	You know that old fight saying, "You got to bring some to get some"? None of these guys are using their own heads as a projectile to purposely impose injury to another player. Helmet to helmet bells ring both ways. Receivers that are stretched wide open on high throws across the middle for target practice is part of the game. Throw out routes if you are scared. Licks that seperate the ball are supposed to cause alligator-arms the next time through. By no means am I condoning violence on the football field, but protecting your turf and causing an opponent to hear footsteps is a big part of the game. It could get really drawn out between the referee's judgment, the league front office review, fines, suspensions, player appeals and possibly civil suits based on the rules. I can see them making an example out of someone (else), just to set the tone for this thing.
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10-21-2010, 12:53 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	i agree with some of the comments made by the article, you are taught to wrap up all your life playing the sport. the minute you don't you become a projectile meaning a fine is coming. depending if its a shot to the head. and the best one more people miss the whole tackle trying to spearhead than wraping up and stopping the play. watered down or not i don't want to see anyones carreer come to an end, ala gay, i really think he's done forever.

10-21-2010, 01:10 PM	#3
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	When the defender goes low to make a tackle, then the ball carrier dips down to absorb the blow, does the runner get fined for causing the helmet-to-helmet? Its going to be a mess. Players will have standard court dates scheduled to plead innocent every Tuesday.

10-21-2010, 01:31 PM	#4
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Sunday is going to be very interesting to watch....

10-21-2010, 01:37 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	On Showtime Sports the other night they were talking about the lack of tackling drills in the NFL. Spearing has become the norm these days. The wrap up tackle is what is needed to keep this safe. They also mentioned that rugby players have the correct technique which helps keep them healthy.

10-22-2010, 12:03 PM	#9
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,714 Blog Entries: 13	A wise person once told me "You can't legislate morality". We've seen how retarded "legislating team celebrations" has been this season. I don't think "legislating safety" is going to be any easier.

10-22-2010, 12:17 PM	#10
Saintswrath +Mod Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Between 504 & 813 Posts: 1,776 Blog Entries: 4	The Ball Carrier should face as much adversity as the defender.. This is silly and it now gives bias ref's more ammo to dictate how they want the game to go.. The NFL is starting to be like the NBA with all these rules that could change a game in a "Favored" team favor.