Not as easy - Seachickens expose weaknesses

xan · 11-21-2010, 10:18 PM

Just a few issues to fix before thursday:

1) long snap. What a freaking joke. Hartley has some liability, but that's a timing issue that the snapper has to fix YESTERDAY.

2) Greer. Body clearly in dome, but left brain in men's room. They figured he couldn't be as god as the hype and boy were they right.

3) pass rush. Hasselbeck was drinking tea and eating scones while perusing the secondary. Kitna's going to have a field day as their line is better and their receivers are faster.

4) kickoff coverage. What is the problem? Average starting fp was unusually high. OB kickoff didn't help.

5) speed of play. Can't we play faster? Every fast series wound up being a fast score. Just score points! All this personnel crapola is just giving opposing defenses too much time to adjust. The wr/te corps are virtually interchangeable, just mix the positioning, not the players. Using less playclock forces base defenses, giving more to exploit. Way too obvious today.

6) fix red zone offense. Wow. How freaking lucky can we get blowing 3 rz chances? Bad playcalling mostly responsible. But brees has to fix his vision because those passes were horrible.

We were far too lucky today. Many things went right, like dropped wide open passes and barely illegal touches and red zone ints.

papz · 11-21-2010, 10:35 PM

Personally I've never liked our special teams play over the past 3 or 4 years. After the season ends, I'd like us to bring Bobby April back in town.

Greer was one of the top cornerbacks in the league... second to Revis based on last year in my opinon. But... he has taken a step backwards this year... hopefully for the stretch run he can return to form.

As far as the snapping situation is concerned... we did just lose Kyle and we weren't prepared for it. Just like the Steelers in their Superbowl run when the lose their long snapper, there will be an adjustment period. But... I have no doubt we'll be fine in the upcoming weeks when our LS gets acclimated.

st thomas · 11-21-2010, 10:39 PM

i never thought we were in danger of collapsing.hassbek aint no joke, he's been around this league. he can spot a open reciever like brees. the dump off passes saved his asre all day.nobody stayed with the dam back out of the backfield that could have gotten us more sacks.

realheavyd · 11-21-2010, 10:47 PM

Wow! I thought we played a pretty darn good game overall, really. Yeah we left some points out on the field, but what the Hell do you want, a freaking 55-0 blowout every game or what?

Hasselbeck is a very veteran QB in this league and he knows how to beat you if you leave him opportunities, just like St Thomas said above. To only let him score one passing TD, I thought was pretty damn good personally.

Hopefully, Reggie returns on Thursday at Dallas and our offense will look even better.

I'm not ready to criticize our team to death after a 34-19 win myself...

xan · 11-21-2010, 10:49 PM

My two positives:

1) first glimmer of a running game. But not due to oline.

2) Dallas will win if we play like this on Thursday

st thomas · 11-21-2010, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by xan

My two positives:

1) first glimmer of a running game. But not due to oline.

2) Dallas will win if we play like this on Thursday

dallas will be the spoiler for every game they have left. we need to put them where they belong thursday at 3:00 , back in the losing dumpster.

BIGEASY504 · 11-22-2010, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

dallas will be the spoiler for every game they have left. we need to put them where they belong thursday at 3:00 , back in the losing dumpster.

YOU DO THAT AND GIVE 2EM RAW!!!!

iceshack149 · 11-22-2010, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by xan

My two positives:

1) first glimmer of a running game. But not due to oline.

2) Dallas will win if we play like this on Thursday

How is #2 a positive?

The Saints have concerns like all NFL teams have concerns. The thing to remember here is that this was the last team to win the Superbowl so these guys know how to adjust and how to win.

Belair57 · 11-21-2010, 11:10 PM

since I live in seattle...Im going to rub this in for months..What a great win

saintfan · 11-22-2010, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Belair57

since I live in seattle...Im going to rub this in for months..What a great win

What are the fans like up there? I know a handful of Seahawks fans, and to a man they are much like we are on here. I'd call them fairly classy. They are the anti-Vikings fan IMO.

As for the game, I thought Greer cost us, but I'm wondering if his lapses had anything to do with the people we were missing on Defense. The red zone misses are frustrating, but the kicking game gets a pass since we signed the long snapper for this game on freaking Saturday.

We looked pretty good on O early and then we seemed to lose focus in the second half. It was definitely not a playoff caliber showing, but it was a step in the right direction.

The Lions played Dallas tough and got hozed on a few calls. I expect we'll give Dallas their first post-coaching-change loss on Thursday.

11-21-2010, 10:18 PM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Not as easy - Seachickens expose weaknesses Just a few issues to fix before thursday: 1) long snap. What a freaking joke. Hartley has some liability, but that's a timing issue that the snapper has to fix YESTERDAY. 2) Greer. Body clearly in dome, but left brain in men's room. They figured he couldn't be as god as the hype and boy were they right. 3) pass rush. Hasselbeck was drinking tea and eating scones while perusing the secondary. Kitna's going to have a field day as their line is better and their receivers are faster. 4) kickoff coverage. What is the problem? Average starting fp was unusually high. OB kickoff didn't help. 5) speed of play. Can't we play faster? Every fast series wound up being a fast score. Just score points! All this personnel crapola is just giving opposing defenses too much time to adjust. The wr/te corps are virtually interchangeable, just mix the positioning, not the players. Using less playclock forces base defenses, giving more to exploit. Way too obvious today. 6) fix red zone offense. Wow. How freaking lucky can we get blowing 3 rz chances? Bad playcalling mostly responsible. But brees has to fix his vision because those passes were horrible. We were far too lucky today. Many things went right, like dropped wide open passes and barely illegal touches and red zone ints.
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11-21-2010, 10:47 PM	#4
realheavyd 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339	Wow! I thought we played a pretty darn good game overall, really. Yeah we left some points out on the field, but what the Hell do you want, a freaking 55-0 blowout every game or what? Hasselbeck is a very veteran QB in this league and he knows how to beat you if you leave him opportunities, just like St Thomas said above. To only let him score one passing TD, I thought was pretty damn good personally. Hopefully, Reggie returns on Thursday at Dallas and our offense will look even better. I'm not ready to criticize our team to death after a 34-19 win myself...
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11-21-2010, 10:53 PM	#6
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Originally Posted by xan My two positives: 1) first glimmer of a running game. But not due to oline. 2) Dallas will win if we play like this on Thursday dallas will be the spoiler for every game they have left. we need to put them where they belong thursday at 3:00 , back in the losing dumpster.

11-22-2010, 09:33 PM	#7
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Originally Posted by st thomas dallas will be the spoiler for every game they have left. we need to put them where they belong thursday at 3:00 , back in the losing dumpster. YOU DO THAT AND GIVE 2EM RAW!!!!
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11-22-2010, 03:23 AM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by xan My two positives: 1) first glimmer of a running game. But not due to oline. 2) Dallas will win if we play like this on Thursday How is #2 a positive? The Saints have concerns like all NFL teams have concerns. The thing to remember here is that this was the last team to win the Superbowl so these guys know how to adjust and how to win.

11-21-2010, 10:35 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Personally I've never liked our special teams play over the past 3 or 4 years. After the season ends, I'd like us to bring Bobby April back in town. Greer was one of the top cornerbacks in the league... second to Revis based on last year in my opinon. But... he has taken a step backwards this year... hopefully for the stretch run he can return to form. As far as the snapping situation is concerned... we did just lose Kyle and we weren't prepared for it. Just like the Steelers in their Superbowl run when the lose their long snapper, there will be an adjustment period. But... I have no doubt we'll be fine in the upcoming weeks when our LS gets acclimated.
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11-21-2010, 10:39 PM	#3
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	i never thought we were in danger of collapsing.hassbek aint no joke, he's been around this league. he can spot a open reciever like brees. the dump off passes saved his asre all day.nobody stayed with the dam back out of the backfield that could have gotten us more sacks.

11-21-2010, 10:49 PM	#5
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	My two positives: 1) first glimmer of a running game. But not due to oline. 2) Dallas will win if we play like this on Thursday

11-21-2010, 11:10 PM	#9
Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	since I live in seattle...Im going to rub this in for months..What a great win
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11-22-2010, 01:44 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Belair57 since I live in seattle...Im going to rub this in for months..What a great win What are the fans like up there? I know a handful of Seahawks fans, and to a man they are much like we are on here. I'd call them fairly classy. They are the anti-Vikings fan IMO. As for the game, I thought Greer cost us, but I'm wondering if his lapses had anything to do with the people we were missing on Defense. The red zone misses are frustrating, but the kicking game gets a pass since we signed the long snapper for this game on freaking Saturday. We looked pretty good on O early and then we seemed to lose focus in the second half. It was definitely not a playoff caliber showing, but it was a step in the right direction. The Lions played Dallas tough and got hozed on a few calls. I expect we'll give Dallas their first post-coaching-change loss on Thursday.
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