Who do we bring back at RB in '11

TheOak · 12-14-2010, 06:59 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Payton does not put big money on RB's - and before you say anything, Reggie is more than a RB...

We saw Mike Bell the odd man out last year. I think that's Julius Jones this year.

Ivory has proven a ton in limited roles. Not bad for an UDFA.

Our scout RB's will have another chance to crack the squad, so that leaves us asking.... "Who can we get value for"?

PT seems to be the best option.

I hope all three stay but Bush is our "system guy" and Ivory is a great value. That leaves PT and the others like PJ and Lynell...

It's anyone's guess at that point.

In the draft, we'll need help at DT, LB, possibly RB and WR

PT has been shopped once already. NE wanted the house, pool, and 4 lawn chairs for him and i am glad Loomis didn't give it to them. I have a strong feeling PT will be shopped again after the SB.. We should be able to get a damned good deal for him.

Young back with 2 SB rings.... Should be worth a damned good DE and a few draft picks.

xan · 12-14-2010, 08:47 AM

Very few running backs make it through a season without missing a few games. The way our offense is structured, we need multiple purpose personnel that can be somewhat interchangeable. The B-I-T combo have many similar skill sets, though Bush is the fastest and can create space, Thomas is the best blocker and runs better off screens, while Ivory does his best work in traffic. Each helps the other extend their capabilities: Bush sucked as a blocker and he's a lot better, Thomas is now better as an open field runner, and Ivory, well, rookies don't know anything but full steam ahead and he's learning everything (like how to hold onto the ball).

TheOak · 12-14-2010, 09:26 AM

In my worst nightmare we would have to face Ivory a few years from now with another team.

QBREES9 · 12-14-2010, 10:48 AM

I'm going to say Bush and Ivory will be are running backs next year. i for PT was shopped.

iceshack149 · 12-14-2010, 12:50 PM

Boy, people jumped off of PT's bandwagon just as quickly as they got on it.

Not too many RB's compile 100+ yards rushing and 100+ yards receiving in their first game as a starter. Against the Bears defense no less.

Oh well. Ivory is the shiny new toy. PT who?

Rugby Saint II · 12-14-2010, 12:50 PM

We've got a nice little stable of running backs. Only thing is they are all injury prone or have a history of injuries. We lost Hamilton and PJ Hill early in the year. Bush broke his leg, PT was out for 10 weeks or so and Ivorys running style is gonna' get him hurt occasionally. I'd like to be able to resign Reggie at a lower cost and bring everybody to camp with trading options on everyone of them. Other teams have to notice how deep we are at running back.

TheOak · 12-14-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Boy, people jumped off of PT's bandwagon just as quickly as they got on it.

Not too many RB's compile 100+ yards rushing and 100+ yards receiving in their first game as a starter. Against the Bears defense no less.

Oh well. Ivory is the shiny new toy. PT who?

That was 4 years ago. Since then PT has had a total of two 100 yard rushing games and zero 100 yard receiving games.

Danno · 12-14-2010, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Boy, people jumped off of PT's bandwagon just as quickly as they got on it.

Not too many RB's compile 100+ yards rushing and 100+ yards receiving in their first game as a starter. Against the Bears defense no less.

Oh well. Ivory is the shiny new toy. PT who?

I'm still on that PT bandwagon, and have been since his rookie training camp. I'm 100% convinced he's our best RB

papz · 12-14-2010, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

That was 4 years ago. Since then PT has had a total of two 100 yard rushing games and zero 100 yard receiving games.

That shouldn't be a knock on PT at all... he's received 20 carries a grand total of 2 times since he's been here. When he touches the ball, he produces period... whether it's rushing or receiving the ball. PT is the best complete back on this team... which is why we utilize him in a variety of ways, not strictly regulated to running the football.

TheOak · 12-14-2010, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by papz

That shouldn't be a knock on PT at all... he's received 20 carries a grand total of 2 times since he's been here. When he touches the ball, he produces period... whether it's rushing or receiving the ball. PT is the best complete back on this team... which is why we utilize him in a variety of ways, not strictly regulated to running the football.

I was not knocking PT at all. It is just not good business to hold onto something that happened once 4 years ago.

With out a running game we are not a balanced offense. Our running game showed up with Ivory. Period.

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12-14-2010, 06:59 AM	#21
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Payton does not put big money on RB's - and before you say anything, Reggie is more than a RB... We saw Mike Bell the odd man out last year. I think that's Julius Jones this year. Ivory has proven a ton in limited roles. Not bad for an UDFA. Our scout RB's will have another chance to crack the squad, so that leaves us asking.... "Who can we get value for"? PT seems to be the best option. I hope all three stay but Bush is our "system guy" and Ivory is a great value. That leaves PT and the others like PJ and Lynell... It's anyone's guess at that point. In the draft, we'll need help at DT, LB, possibly RB and WR PT has been shopped once already. NE wanted the house, pool, and 4 lawn chairs for him and i am glad Loomis didn't give it to them. I have a strong feeling PT will be shopped again after the SB.. We should be able to get a damned good deal for him. Young back with 2 SB rings.... Should be worth a damned good DE and a few draft picks.

12-14-2010, 08:47 AM	#22
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Very few running backs make it through a season without missing a few games. The way our offense is structured, we need multiple purpose personnel that can be somewhat interchangeable. The B-I-T combo have many similar skill sets, though Bush is the fastest and can create space, Thomas is the best blocker and runs better off screens, while Ivory does his best work in traffic. Each helps the other extend their capabilities: Bush sucked as a blocker and he's a lot better, Thomas is now better as an open field runner, and Ivory, well, rookies don't know anything but full steam ahead and he's learning everything (like how to hold onto the ball).
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12-14-2010, 01:56 PM	#27
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by iceshack149 Boy, people jumped off of PT's bandwagon just as quickly as they got on it. Not too many RB's compile 100+ yards rushing and 100+ yards receiving in their first game as a starter. Against the Bears defense no less. Oh well. Ivory is the shiny new toy. PT who? That was 4 years ago. Since then PT has had a total of two 100 yard rushing games and zero 100 yard receiving games.

12-14-2010, 02:20 PM	#28
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by iceshack149 Boy, people jumped off of PT's bandwagon just as quickly as they got on it. Not too many RB's compile 100+ yards rushing and 100+ yards receiving in their first game as a starter. Against the Bears defense no less. Oh well. Ivory is the shiny new toy. PT who? I'm still on that PT bandwagon, and have been since his rookie training camp. I'm 100% convinced he's our best RB

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12-14-2010, 09:26 AM	#23
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	In my worst nightmare we would have to face Ivory a few years from now with another team.

12-14-2010, 10:48 AM	#24
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	I'm going to say Bush and Ivory will be are running backs next year. i for PT was shopped.

12-14-2010, 12:50 PM	#25
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Boy, people jumped off of PT's bandwagon just as quickly as they got on it. Not too many RB's compile 100+ yards rushing and 100+ yards receiving in their first game as a starter. Against the Bears defense no less. Oh well. Ivory is the shiny new toy. PT who?

12-14-2010, 12:50 PM	#26
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	We've got a nice little stable of running backs. Only thing is they are all injury prone or have a history of injuries. We lost Hamilton and PJ Hill early in the year. Bush broke his leg, PT was out for 10 weeks or so and Ivorys running style is gonna' get him hurt occasionally. I'd like to be able to resign Reggie at a lower cost and bring everybody to camp with trading options on everyone of them. Other teams have to notice how deep we are at running back.

12-14-2010, 02:48 PM	#29
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Originally Posted by x626xBlack That was 4 years ago. Since then PT has had a total of two 100 yard rushing games and zero 100 yard receiving games. That shouldn't be a knock on PT at all... he's received 20 carries a grand total of 2 times since he's been here. When he touches the ball, he produces period... whether it's rushing or receiving the ball. PT is the best complete back on this team... which is why we utilize him in a variety of ways, not strictly regulated to running the football.

12-14-2010, 03:18 PM	#30
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by papz That shouldn't be a knock on PT at all... he's received 20 carries a grand total of 2 times since he's been here. When he touches the ball, he produces period... whether it's rushing or receiving the ball. PT is the best complete back on this team... which is why we utilize him in a variety of ways, not strictly regulated to running the football. I was not knocking PT at all. It is just not good business to hold onto something that happened once 4 years ago. With out a running game we are not a balanced offense. Our running game showed up with Ivory. Period.