Listen...we have our problems just like other teams. our d is good enough to keep us in games. the main problem is we are playing with our 3rd string sometime. yea we have depth but depth only can hold you over. we have rb that are soft. bush goes down if someone touches him, pt has been hurt all year and ivory is a sissy. jones is absolute garbage. 1/2 of our d line performs. 1/3 of our LB core shows up. no cb in the league can cover someone all day. and to bring up charles grant?!?!? i havent heard his name since i heard he got paid 3 years ago. they didnt call his name 1 time the last year he played because he was invisible. our turnover ratio stat is so stupid because brees has thrown more int that he ever has in his life because we have people with the likes of deshawn freaking wynn running the ball.

My thoughts exactly. It is the Saints offense that is the problem, not the defense. The defense has held opponents to an average of 19 points per game which is a nice improvement over 21 points per game last season. The real problem - and let's be frank here - is Drew Brees' recent propensity to throw interceptions at just the wrong time. Also, we've been having fumblitis near or in the red zone all season long it seems like. I really hope and pray that the Saints are on top of this ball security issue against the Seahawks, because I think too many people here are greatly underestimating the Seahawks.

I think another thing to consider is this: corners are going to be beaten from time to time. In fact, our corners have been no worse than most of the league's and in most cases, they've been better. The Saints have, after all, the 4th ranked pass defense and the Saints have one of the very best red zone defenses in the league - constantly forcing field goal attempts as opposed to giving up touchdowns. And that is an extremely significant metric to judge a pass defense. And quite frankly, Mike Williams of Tampa Bay has been burning good corners all year. Our corners did basically shut down Matt Ryan the other night, or did I miss that? They also shut down two-time Super Bowl winner Pig Pen.

I actually would say we miss Grant from a pressure standpoint. He was a way bigger guy than Brown and even thou he didn't get sacks he did a better job at colapsing the pocket forcing QBs to throw while moving/running which lessens accuracy and leads to INTs. Also when the QB gets pressure and starts to move that increases the chance to sack him since rushing lanes changes for the defence, as an OL myself i know it creates problems when the defender starts movin in a different direction.

However run D seems to be doing better this year but I would give Ellis and Ayodele crdit for that rather that saying it was thanks to Brown.

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This is all Charles grant ever wanted, once he got it, he stopped playing almost immediately.. He had to feed his kids, i guess the stripper kids too he made it rain on in all those clubs droppin 30,000 and 40,000 in each joint.

We are way better off today without Grant than with him.

I can't even imagine why this is a real question? Grant was over-rated and more hype. Sure there were high hope and even promises he made that he couldn't deliver! Broken promises is all he was.

He really wasn't a pass rushing DE either... he was more of a run stopper only. I'd put my grandmother in at DE if I need to get to the QB on a certain play. FYI she's pretty quick actually for an 86 year old.

Dude we have 2 good CB's. It's tough to keep tight coverage when there's no pass rush.

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charles grant was with the bears for week 5 and 6 then was cut and with miami before that who also cut him. he even had a two game stint with omaha of the united league. hes 425 by now any bets. i have confidence in our defense this saturday. hasselbeck will try and throw his arm off to beat us; so drew will have a huge passing day to stay ahead of the hawks. thats my thinking and sticking to it.

Dang... he's been hanging with Sullivan?