Are we missing Grant???

SaintPauly · 01-04-2011, 06:42 PM

Was Charles Grant really that important to our pressure? Maybe I need to re-evaluate my criticism of him. Him getting double teamed so much, might be why Will Smith had a pro-bowl season last year? Without pressure up front, our secondary is getting abused. Alex Brown hasn't been what I thought he would be. He is getting pushed around by 3 year tackles one on one. Heck, with his play making ability, I think Charleston should be starting anyway. I don't know. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Speedy Ron · 01-04-2011, 06:58 PM

alex brown stain is terrible. Ellis is actually playing pretty good. i agree we need another DE very badly. we also need a LB badly. we have people but they stay hurt. i dont understand how we have so many people that get hurt. i said it before but our team is made of glass. really frustrating to watch

Danno · 01-04-2011, 06:59 PM

Brown is better than Grant, or at least as good as. He's had a decent year.

SaintPauly · 01-04-2011, 07:01 PM

Yeah, but the turnovers... That's what's frustrating me. We killed teams, on the t.o.d., last year, and I just can't figure out what is so different, that we aren't making big plays on defense this year. I will admit, there have been ALOT, of dropped ints, that would have changed many an outcome, but 17 plus, to - 5? That's a BIG change.

foreverfan · 01-04-2011, 07:03 PM

We need a RB that can play 19 games.

SaintPauly · 01-04-2011, 07:07 PM

People keep saying Ingram, but I just don't see him being there, when we pick. How about Trent Richardson? Will he be coming out this year?

dizzle88 · 01-04-2011, 07:08 PM

Alex brown is better than grant but he still ain't nothing special, charleston gets less reps and makes more plays than Alex brown. Maybe we will see junior in there next year, we need to address the position in the draft anyway.

Danno · 01-04-2011, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Alex Brown is done. He hasn't done anything but stink up the joint along with Shanle, Greer, and Porter on Defense. Even Vilma has been so-so. Maybe elite Offensive Coordinators have figured out GW?

We're the Number 1 ranked defense in the NFC and 4th best defense in the entire NFL.

They aren't figuring out squat.

lumm0x · 01-04-2011, 07:17 PM

On our Christmas wish list definitely should be starting upgrades at LDE, SLB and WLB. Upgrade Brown, Dunbar/Clark and Shanle and we have a killer defense. I like all those guys for the depth, but we are only as good as our weakest link.

Danno · 01-04-2011, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Magic

Stats don't tell the whole story. What are we against the run? I would bet it's not top 15. Brown has gotten blown up against the run.

Porter and Greer have been abused all year by scrub WRs.

We're 16th against the run, and it certainly isn't Browns fault totally. Our OLB's suck, and we played some solid run teams this year.

Brown's done OK this year.

And Porter and Greer have not been abused all year.

01-04-2011, 06:42 PM	#1
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Are we missing Grant??? Was Charles Grant really that important to our pressure? Maybe I need to re-evaluate my criticism of him. Him getting double teamed so much, might be why Will Smith had a pro-bowl season last year? Without pressure up front, our secondary is getting abused. Alex Brown hasn't been what I thought he would be. He is getting pushed around by 3 year tackles one on one. Heck, with his play making ability, I think Charleston should be starting anyway. I don't know. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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01-04-2011, 07:14 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Alex Brown is done. He hasn't done anything but stink up the joint along with Shanle, Greer, and Porter on Defense. Even Vilma has been so-so. Maybe elite Offensive Coordinators have figured out GW? We're the Number 1 ranked defense in the NFC and 4th best defense in the entire NFL. They aren't figuring out squat.

01-04-2011, 07:21 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by Mr Magic Stats don't tell the whole story. What are we against the run? I would bet it's not top 15. Brown has gotten blown up against the run. Porter and Greer have been abused all year by scrub WRs. We're 16th against the run, and it certainly isn't Browns fault totally. Our OLB's suck, and we played some solid run teams this year. Brown's done OK this year. And Porter and Greer have not been abused all year.

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01-04-2011, 06:58 PM	#2
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	alex brown stain is terrible. Ellis is actually playing pretty good. i agree we need another DE very badly. we also need a LB badly. we have people but they stay hurt. i dont understand how we have so many people that get hurt. i said it before but our team is made of glass. really frustrating to watch

01-04-2011, 06:59 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Brown is better than Grant, or at least as good as. He's had a decent year.

01-04-2011, 07:01 PM	#4
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Yeah, but the turnovers... That's what's frustrating me. We killed teams, on the t.o.d., last year, and I just can't figure out what is so different, that we aren't making big plays on defense this year. I will admit, there have been ALOT, of dropped ints, that would have changed many an outcome, but 17 plus, to - 5? That's a BIG change.

01-04-2011, 07:03 PM	#5
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	We need a RB that can play 19 games.

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SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	People keep saying Ingram, but I just don't see him being there, when we pick. How about Trent Richardson? Will he be coming out this year?

01-04-2011, 07:08 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,357	Alex brown is better than grant but he still ain't nothing special, charleston gets less reps and makes more plays than Alex brown. Maybe we will see junior in there next year, we need to address the position in the draft anyway.

01-04-2011, 07:17 PM	#9
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	On our Christmas wish list definitely should be starting upgrades at LDE, SLB and WLB. Upgrade Brown, Dunbar/Clark and Shanle and we have a killer defense. I like all those guys for the depth, but we are only as good as our weakest link.