Our Defense Was God Awful Today - WTF 41 pts allowed?

darstep · 01-09-2011, 01:11 AM

Sharper is done. Harper can't even cover a tight-end. They've done well for us but we need some youth back there to upgrade that piece of the puzzle.

gocowboysgo · 01-09-2011, 01:12 AM

The Saints defense was Dallas Cowboys esque.

cargojon · 01-09-2011, 01:13 AM

Youth is not Harper's problem - he's 28 and was drafted in 2006. the problem was his thick neck was preventing proper blood flow to his friggin brain today.

saintsfan1976 · 01-09-2011, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

Sharper is done. Harper can't even cover a tight-end. They've done well for us but we need some youth back there to upgrade that piece of the puzzle.

Sharper has suffered this year. Harper improved but was asked to do more than he could today. Youth is needed, but Jenkins is the answer. Usama and Torrence are on the outside looking in next year.

RailBoss · 01-09-2011, 10:23 AM

We got run on like swiss cheese this season.

saintsfan1976 · 01-09-2011, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

We got run on like swiss cheese this season.

Swiss cheese runs??

SmashMouth · 01-09-2011, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Swiss cheese runs??

If the run game of our opponent is hot as hell, our swiss cheese defense runs like FONDUE!

Budsdrinker · 01-09-2011, 11:59 AM

Sharper is still not 100% healthy from is knee surgery so I might give him another chance in training camp. We had some questionable play calling yesterday on both sides of the ball. The TD by Stokley we had a LB trying to cover him, what the hell was GW thinking. Stokley may not be a speed demon but he is faster than any LB on our team. Harper can't cover, we all know that. He was better this year than in the past but yesterday he reverted to Roman of the past couple years. We need DE's, DL and OLB's in a bad way. Will Smith couldn't handle a rookie with 2 bad ankles yesterday that's pretty sad.

neugey · 01-09-2011, 12:02 PM

Silver lining - the awful defense likely made GW's stock drop, so maybe less likely he'll get offered a HC job.

This was easily the worst defensive performance in at least 2 years, I think it was an abberation.

lumm0x · 01-09-2011, 01:01 PM

Defense cost us this game. It's over.

With that said, getting rid of Gregg Williams is not the answer. My god, we live and breath the aggressiveness of this guy all year and this loss has most people kicking him out on his ear? Alot of you sound like the cybil Falcons fans knee jerking after every loss.

We have some serious holes in the personnel of the defense even when healthy. With the injuries the holes are more obvious and exploitable and frankly we just didn't rise to the occassion and a veteran QB along with a lot of heart from every other Seahawk just out gutted us for 3 hours.

Harper is the perfect box safety who can handle most TE's if the over the top support is there. Sharper didn't have the range we needed that Jenkins could have provided. Porter and Greer are still starters. They played well, made some nice tackles and coverage. We never addressed the Shanle position nor the loss of Fujita. Dunbar is great depth. He is not a starter. Neither is any other OLB on our roster. 2 glaring position problems. Alex Brown, same thing. Good depth, not a starter anymore. We need a pass rush without a blitz and Will Smith alone is not enough.

36 pts should be enough to win any game. This one was on the defense. Man to man we got out played and Seattle came up with some killer plays, not ones we could have schemed to stop and the players on this field just didn't have the instincts to recognize them or adjust. Hell on that final Lynch TD run please tell me what defensive play call Williams could have put in to prevent 8 guys blowing the tackle on him? We had 8 guys get their hands on Lynch and fail to make the tackle. It was a complete defensive self destruction. Not Gregg Williams.

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cargojon 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 576	Youth is not Harper's problem - he's 28 and was drafted in 2006. the problem was his thick neck was preventing proper blood flow to his friggin brain today.
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01-09-2011, 01:16 AM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by darstep Sharper is done. Harper can't even cover a tight-end. They've done well for us but we need some youth back there to upgrade that piece of the puzzle. Sharper has suffered this year. Harper improved but was asked to do more than he could today. Youth is needed, but Jenkins is the answer. Usama and Torrence are on the outside looking in next year.

01-09-2011, 10:26 AM	#16
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by RailBoss We got run on like swiss cheese this season. Swiss cheese runs??

01-09-2011, 11:24 AM	#17
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,124 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Swiss cheese runs?? If the run game of our opponent is hot as hell, our swiss cheese defense runs like FONDUE!

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darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Sharper is done. Harper can't even cover a tight-end. They've done well for us but we need some youth back there to upgrade that piece of the puzzle.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Sharper is still not 100% healthy from is knee surgery so I might give him another chance in training camp. We had some questionable play calling yesterday on both sides of the ball. The TD by Stokley we had a LB trying to cover him, what the hell was GW thinking. Stokley may not be a speed demon but he is faster than any LB on our team. Harper can't cover, we all know that. He was better this year than in the past but yesterday he reverted to Roman of the past couple years. We need DE's, DL and OLB's in a bad way. Will Smith couldn't handle a rookie with 2 bad ankles yesterday that's pretty sad.

01-09-2011, 12:02 PM	#19
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Silver lining - the awful defense likely made GW's stock drop, so maybe less likely he'll get offered a HC job. This was easily the worst defensive performance in at least 2 years, I think it was an abberation.

01-09-2011, 01:01 PM	#20
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Defense cost us this game. It's over. With that said, getting rid of Gregg Williams is not the answer. My god, we live and breath the aggressiveness of this guy all year and this loss has most people kicking him out on his ear? Alot of you sound like the cybil Falcons fans knee jerking after every loss. We have some serious holes in the personnel of the defense even when healthy. With the injuries the holes are more obvious and exploitable and frankly we just didn't rise to the occassion and a veteran QB along with a lot of heart from every other Seahawk just out gutted us for 3 hours. Harper is the perfect box safety who can handle most TE's if the over the top support is there. Sharper didn't have the range we needed that Jenkins could have provided. Porter and Greer are still starters. They played well, made some nice tackles and coverage. We never addressed the Shanle position nor the loss of Fujita. Dunbar is great depth. He is not a starter. Neither is any other OLB on our roster. 2 glaring position problems. Alex Brown, same thing. Good depth, not a starter anymore. We need a pass rush without a blitz and Will Smith alone is not enough. 36 pts should be enough to win any game. This one was on the defense. Man to man we got out played and Seattle came up with some killer plays, not ones we could have schemed to stop and the players on this field just didn't have the instincts to recognize them or adjust. Hell on that final Lynch TD run please tell me what defensive play call Williams could have put in to prevent 8 guys blowing the tackle on him? We had 8 guys get their hands on Lynch and fail to make the tackle. It was a complete defensive self destruction. Not Gregg Williams.