How many more games would we have won if....

BillyC · 11-25-2003, 09:41 AM

.........Brooks was not the QB? Let me be the first to say that Brooks holds the ball longer than he should sometimes and makes mistakes during the course of a game. But, I'd like to know how many games y'all think we would have won with another QB??

tweeky · 11-25-2003, 09:45 AM

We\'d be somewhere between 7-4 and 4-7.
Who knows? Too many dynamics to speculate.

Brooks looks SLIGHTLY improved over last year. He better show me something over our last 5 or those doubts will start to creep back into my mind.

I\'m not ready to can him yet, but he\'s on a little thinner ice.

progress · 11-25-2003, 10:12 AM

Who\'s the quaterback, with Brett Farve or Peyton Mannning we are at least 8-3. My basis for this is that I truly believe that Aaron has cost us two or three games this year. Every team that we have beaten could have beaten with a minimally talented, yet turnover conscious QB. Yes Aaron brough us back against the Falcons, but he was the reason we needed to come back in the first place. With a QB that doesnt make stupid mistakes, I also believe that we would have beaten Carolina twice and the Eagles this past Sunday. Brooks has been in the league for way to long, and we are way to late in the season to be fumbling the snap. As the QB he is also responsible for making sure everyone knows the snap count. He needs to take that responsibility and lead this team. With Bouman I say probably very similiar to the current record, but at least we could expect that Bouman would not continue to make the same mistakes week in and week out.

BillyC · 11-25-2003, 10:19 AM

As the QB he is also responsible for making sure everyone knows the snap count.

What would you like AB to do. If it were AB\'s fault then all 10-guys would be jumping offsides. What are you talking about?

with Brett Farve or Peyton Mannning we are at least 8-3

Green Bay 6 5 0 .545

8-3 with Favre huh? Hell, he can\'t even get his own team to 8-3 and you think he would get the Saints to 8-3? What are you talking about?

progress · 11-25-2003, 10:22 AM

Farve doesnt have the talent around him that Brooks has.

As far as the sanp count goes, Brooks is does not have the respect of his teammates. Apparently when they are in the huddle, not everyone is paying attention to what Brooks is saying, and that is a direct result of his lack of leadership skills.

BillyC · 11-25-2003, 10:24 AM

Farve doesnt have the talent around him that Brooks has.

As far as the sanp count goes, Brooks is does not have the respect of his teammates. Apparently when they are in the huddle, not everyone is paying attention to what Brooks is saying, and that is a direct result of his lack of leadership skills.

Are you serious? I hope not, but beleive what ya will.

progress · 11-25-2003, 10:30 AM

Perhaps you\'d like to provide a reason that grown men who have been playing the game their entire lives can\'t remember a number between 1 and 5.

RUFF · 11-25-2003, 10:36 AM

Billy, you asked people there opinion about how many games the saints would have won without Brooks and when they respond it seems you are attacking them.

BillyC · 11-25-2003, 10:36 AM

Perhaps you\'d like to provide a reason that grown men who have been playing the game their entire lives can\'t remember a number between 1 and 5.

Let me ask you something progress. If you were an offensive lineman and ANY QB said the snap count was on 3 and you went on 2. Who would you blame? The QB? Yeah, it\'s the QB\'s fault. You sound like Leon on the commercial.

Leon can\'t do everything, it\'s the QB\'s fault !!

RUFF · 11-25-2003, 10:39 AM

Leon was meant to be Keyshawn in real life

11-25-2003, 09:41 AM	#1
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	How many more games would we have won if.... .........Brooks was not the QB? Let me be the first to say that Brooks holds the ball longer than he should sometimes and makes mistakes during the course of a game. But, I'd like to know how many games y'all think we would have won with another QB??
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11-25-2003, 09:45 AM	#2
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	How many more games would we have won if.... We\'d be somewhere between 7-4 and 4-7. Who knows? Too many dynamics to speculate. Brooks looks SLIGHTLY improved over last year. He better show me something over our last 5 or those doubts will start to creep back into my mind. I\'m not ready to can him yet, but he\'s on a little thinner ice.

11-25-2003, 10:12 AM	#3
progress 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 114	How many more games would we have won if.... Who\'s the quaterback, with Brett Farve or Peyton Mannning we are at least 8-3. My basis for this is that I truly believe that Aaron has cost us two or three games this year. Every team that we have beaten could have beaten with a minimally talented, yet turnover conscious QB. Yes Aaron brough us back against the Falcons, but he was the reason we needed to come back in the first place. With a QB that doesnt make stupid mistakes, I also believe that we would have beaten Carolina twice and the Eagles this past Sunday. Brooks has been in the league for way to long, and we are way to late in the season to be fumbling the snap. As the QB he is also responsible for making sure everyone knows the snap count. He needs to take that responsibility and lead this team. With Bouman I say probably very similiar to the current record, but at least we could expect that Bouman would not continue to make the same mistakes week in and week out.
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11-25-2003, 10:19 AM	#4
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	How many more games would we have won if.... As the QB he is also responsible for making sure everyone knows the snap count. What would you like AB to do. If it were AB\'s fault then all 10-guys would be jumping offsides. What are you talking about? with Brett Farve or Peyton Mannning we are at least 8-3 Green Bay 6 5 0 .545 8-3 with Favre huh? Hell, he can\'t even get his own team to 8-3 and you think he would get the Saints to 8-3? What are you talking about?
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11-25-2003, 10:22 AM	#5
progress 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 114	How many more games would we have won if.... Farve doesnt have the talent around him that Brooks has. As far as the sanp count goes, Brooks is does not have the respect of his teammates. Apparently when they are in the huddle, not everyone is paying attention to what Brooks is saying, and that is a direct result of his lack of leadership skills.
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