Our Running Game

st thomas · 01-13-2011, 02:16 PM

i don't think i ever heard of any o-line only blocking for big school rbs. you get paid to do a job and it should be carried out no-matter who's behind drew. i still believe we will go all out on defense in the draft. and depending on who stays or gos before we 'll draft rb. it just can't happen again no way.
hamilton--- knee
pj hill --- chest
ivory --- hammy, knee, ankle
p. t. --- ankle
bush --- bone
betts --- what-ever

Crusader · 01-13-2011, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Our line is not the best at knocking defenses off of the line, I didn't agree with the play called on the 4th and inches but no way should that tackle be made behind the line if your OL is doing it's job!

I agree on this one. I really really like Stinchcomb because hes so good on the screens and a really good leader but I'd like to see a real roadgrader on the RT spot. Turly-like just big mean and with a nasty streak.

niteadept · 01-14-2011, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

i don't think i ever heard of any o-line only blocking for big school rbs. you get paid to do a job and it should be carried out no-matter who's behind drew. i still believe we will go all out on defense in the draft. and depending on who stays or gos before we 'll draft rb. it just can't happen again no way.

This! You go to work and you do your job irregardless. That's why you get paid. If you can't do your job, you get fired and they find someone to do your job better than you did.

saintsfan1976 · 01-14-2011, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

I don't buy that!
What do you consider a small school?
PT - Illinois same as Mendenhall
Ivory - was at WSU before going to Tiffin because of team violation
Jones - Notre Dame

There are lots of good RB's coming from so called small schools.
Michael Turner - N. Illinois
Chris Johnson - E. Carolina
Ahmad Bradshaw - Marshall
Ray Rice - Rutgers
Matt Forte - Tulane

Our line is not the best at knocking defenses off of the line, I didn't agree with the play called on the 4th and inches but no way should that tackle be made behind the line if your OL is doing it's job!

My point is not that good RB's don't come from small schools.

It's that you can't expect much from a guy like Ivory who get's thrown into action all of a sudden - especially in Payton's system. Combine a rookie with guys like Deshawn Wynn, Joique Bell and Ladell Betts, your running game suffers.

And don't think for one second that every RB runs the same and that all the O line has to do is block the same way. Different runners, different styles, different vision, etc... your running game suffers.

Originally Posted by st thomas

i don't think i ever heard of any o-line only blocking for big school rbs. you get paid to do a job and it should be carried out no-matter who's behind drew. i still believe we will go all out on defense in the draft. and depending on who stays or gos before we 'll draft rb. it just can't happen again no way.
hamilton--- knee
pj hill --- chest
ivory --- hammy, knee, ankle
p. t. --- ankle
bush --- bone
betts --- what-ever

So is your job ever affected by a new employee or boss? Or do things just run smoothly?

In regards to draft - not that you're asking - I think it's still too soon to know but either in FA or draft, the front seven will receive an upgrade or two before RB is addressed.

jeanpierre · 01-14-2011, 09:01 AM

What running game? We've got Evans and Nicks and we don't run the ball because...we don't have running backs...

QBREES9 · 01-14-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Injuries killed the running game.

Lynell had a history of knee problems before coming to NO. Will he return?
Ivory was a small school back who Payton probably didn't plan on even using this season. He'll still be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart next year.
PT is a versatile back that excels in Payton's system. If he's healthy, why not have him return??
Still like to see Reggie back at a price that the team can live with.
PJ Hill.... Is he the guy?

You're so right Injuries killed the running game.

01-13-2011, 05:58 PM	#12
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Our line is not the best at knocking defenses off of the line, I didn't agree with the play called on the 4th and inches but no way should that tackle be made behind the line if your OL is doing it's job! I agree on this one. I really really like Stinchcomb because hes so good on the screens and a really good leader but I'd like to see a real roadgrader on the RT spot. Turly-like just big mean and with a nasty streak.

01-14-2011, 06:29 AM	#13
niteadept Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by st thomas i don't think i ever heard of any o-line only blocking for big school rbs. you get paid to do a job and it should be carried out no-matter who's behind drew. i still believe we will go all out on defense in the draft. and depending on who stays or gos before we 'll draft rb. it just can't happen again no way. This! You go to work and you do your job irregardless. That's why you get paid. If you can't do your job, you get fired and they find someone to do your job better than you did.

01-14-2011, 08:29 AM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker I don't buy that! What do you consider a small school? PT - Illinois same as Mendenhall Ivory - was at WSU before going to Tiffin because of team violation Jones - Notre Dame There are lots of good RB's coming from so called small schools. Michael Turner - N. Illinois Chris Johnson - E. Carolina Ahmad Bradshaw - Marshall Ray Rice - Rutgers Matt Forte - Tulane Our line is not the best at knocking defenses off of the line, I didn't agree with the play called on the 4th and inches but no way should that tackle be made behind the line if your OL is doing it's job! My point is not that good RB's don't come from small schools. It's that you can't expect much from a guy like Ivory who get's thrown into action all of a sudden - especially in Payton's system. Combine a rookie with guys like Deshawn Wynn, Joique Bell and Ladell Betts, your running game suffers. And don't think for one second that every RB runs the same and that all the O line has to do is block the same way. Different runners, different styles, different vision, etc... your running game suffers. Originally Posted by st thomas i don't think i ever heard of any o-line only blocking for big school rbs. you get paid to do a job and it should be carried out no-matter who's behind drew. i still believe we will go all out on defense in the draft. and depending on who stays or gos before we 'll draft rb. it just can't happen again no way. hamilton--- knee pj hill --- chest ivory --- hammy, knee, ankle p. t. --- ankle bush --- bone betts --- what-ever So is your job ever affected by a new employee or boss? Or do things just run smoothly? In regards to draft - not that you're asking - I think it's still too soon to know but either in FA or draft, the front seven will receive an upgrade or two before RB is addressed.

01-14-2011, 02:05 PM	#16
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Injuries killed the running game. Lynell had a history of knee problems before coming to NO. Will he return? Ivory was a small school back who Payton probably didn't plan on even using this season. He'll still be 3rd or 4th on the depth chart next year. PT is a versatile back that excels in Payton's system. If he's healthy, why not have him return?? Still like to see Reggie back at a price that the team can live with. PJ Hill.... Is he the guy? You're so right Injuries killed the running game.

01-13-2011, 02:16 PM	#11
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	i don't think i ever heard of any o-line only blocking for big school rbs. you get paid to do a job and it should be carried out no-matter who's behind drew. i still believe we will go all out on defense in the draft. and depending on who stays or gos before we 'll draft rb. it just can't happen again no way. hamilton--- knee pj hill --- chest ivory --- hammy, knee, ankle p. t. --- ankle bush --- bone betts --- what-ever

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01-14-2011, 09:01 AM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	What running game? We've got Evans and Nicks and we don't run the ball because...we don't have running backs...