Do you side with the Players or the Owners on the CBA issue?

44Champs · 01-25-2011, 04:11 PM

Note: I've never posted a poll before, so I'm sorry if it doesn't show up in this thread.

Basically, it boils down to the players wanting to make more money (via uncapped salaries),

and

the owners want to keep more of the revenue in their pockets. According to the current CBA, at least 50% of the revenue that owners earn MUST go towards player contracts. With uncapped salaries, that figure could significantly cut into the owner's pockets.

Then you have Roger Goodell telling owners that they need to either upgrade or build new stadiums if they want to host a Superbowl.

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Danno · 01-25-2011, 04:17 PM

Both are to blame, but since most will side with players due to their popularity, I voted Owners, just to provide fair balance.

I'd be shocked if owners ever won a single poll over players.

44Champs · 01-25-2011, 04:23 PM

Danno, I voted owners too. The biggest issue that I think needs to be fixed is capping rookie salaries. For a player to sign a $60MM contract before they even set foot on a professional field is absurd. What company would do that in the real working world?

saintfan · 01-25-2011, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Danno, I voted owners too. The biggest issue that I think needs to be fixed is capping rookie salaries. For a player to sign a $60MM contract before they even set foot on a professional field is absurd. What company would do that in the real working world?

It's a close call, but I'm leaning with the owners, although the players have a number of valid issues too. I also agree that everything else being equal, they have got to do something about the rookie salaries.

lynwood · 01-25-2011, 04:49 PM

I voted owners. When it comes down to it all the players need is Health Insurance, salary, and Incentives. When a contract is signed that player is expected to fullfill his end as well as the owner fullfilling his. Playa wanna hold out, Playa don't gets paid! Playa don't wanna go to team that drafts him...playa don't gets paid.

I also don't think that Owners should expect to flip coin for Tax Moneys to be used to build stadiums unless it is on a ballot. I'm for Tax incentives that pretty much any business would get. I am glad that the Saints are Still in New Orleans but I don't understand the state sending Bensen a paycheck every year.

neugey · 01-25-2011, 10:29 PM

Players, because the flippin' 18-game season that is causing all the problems in CBA discussions is their (or NFL's) bright idea.

Euphoria · 01-26-2011, 12:42 AM

There are a number of issues not just a money thing. One we need to see the books.

Fans should have a say as well.

18 game season - YES

Rookie pay scale - YES

Crusader · 01-26-2011, 02:02 AM

I'm siding with the owners. There will always be new players.

alleycat_126 · 01-26-2011, 06:12 AM

I gotta go players here, all the owner does is put out the dough, and rake it in they don't give a crap whether its 16 games or 21 games as long as it is profitable. I player has to fight for fair bargain, with absolutely nothing no safeguards and no guarantees. The owners have already voted 18 game seasons through, plus there won't probably be any hikes in active players your roster can hold, which in short means there's gonna be more injuries.

Luda34 · 01-26-2011, 08:37 AM

I going player 18 game season is stupid in the player eyes more chance for player to get hurt and it's going to take years off player careers. The owners need to give these guys a ganranted contracts so most these guy's want be broke when they retire. The owner's are only thinking about money for prolonging the season to 18 games thats why they voted so fast for the 18 game season there are alot of good owners out there but I don't believe there looking out for the players like they should.

View Poll Results: Do you side with the Owners or the Players on the CBA issue?
OWNERS - they take the risks and drive the business	17	53.13%
PLAYERS - they do all the work on the field and provide the entertainment to the fans	15	46.88%
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01-25-2011, 04:11 PM	#1
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Do you side with the Players or the Owners on the CBA issue? Note: I've never posted a poll before, so I'm sorry if it doesn't show up in this thread. Basically, it boils down to the players wanting to make more money (via uncapped salaries), and the owners want to keep more of the revenue in their pockets. According to the current CBA, at least 50% of the revenue that owners earn MUST go towards player contracts. With uncapped salaries, that figure could significantly cut into the owner's pockets. Then you have Roger Goodell telling owners that they need to either upgrade or build new stadiums if they want to host a Superbowl. NFL Collective Bargaining: Can This Multi-Billion Dollar Giant Be Tamed? \| Bleacher Report
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01-25-2011, 04:23 PM	#3
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Danno, I voted owners too. The biggest issue that I think needs to be fixed is capping rookie salaries. For a player to sign a $60MM contract before they even set foot on a professional field is absurd. What company would do that in the real working world?
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01-25-2011, 04:32 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by 44Champs Danno, I voted owners too. The biggest issue that I think needs to be fixed is capping rookie salaries. For a player to sign a $60MM contract before they even set foot on a professional field is absurd. What company would do that in the real working world? It's a close call, but I'm leaning with the owners, although the players have a number of valid issues too. I also agree that everything else being equal, they have got to do something about the rookie salaries.

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01-25-2011, 04:17 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Both are to blame, but since most will side with players due to their popularity, I voted Owners, just to provide fair balance. I'd be shocked if owners ever won a single poll over players.

01-25-2011, 04:49 PM	#5
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	I voted owners. When it comes down to it all the players need is Health Insurance, salary, and Incentives. When a contract is signed that player is expected to fullfill his end as well as the owner fullfilling his. Playa wanna hold out, Playa don't gets paid! Playa don't wanna go to team that drafts him...playa don't gets paid. I also don't think that Owners should expect to flip coin for Tax Moneys to be used to build stadiums unless it is on a ballot. I'm for Tax incentives that pretty much any business would get. I am glad that the Saints are Still in New Orleans but I don't understand the state sending Bensen a paycheck every year.

01-25-2011, 10:29 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Players, because the flippin' 18-game season that is causing all the problems in CBA discussions is their (or NFL's) bright idea.

01-26-2011, 12:42 AM	#7
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	There are a number of issues not just a money thing. One we need to see the books. Fans should have a say as well. 18 game season - YES Rookie pay scale - YES

01-26-2011, 02:02 AM	#8
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	I'm siding with the owners. There will always be new players.

01-26-2011, 06:12 AM	#9
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	I gotta go players here, all the owner does is put out the dough, and rake it in they don't give a crap whether its 16 games or 21 games as long as it is profitable. I player has to fight for fair bargain, with absolutely nothing no safeguards and no guarantees. The owners have already voted 18 game seasons through, plus there won't probably be any hikes in active players your roster can hold, which in short means there's gonna be more injuries.

01-26-2011, 08:37 AM	#10
Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	I going player 18 game season is stupid in the player eyes more chance for player to get hurt and it's going to take years off player careers. The owners need to give these guys a ganranted contracts so most these guy's want be broke when they retire. The owner's are only thinking about money for prolonging the season to 18 games thats why they voted so fast for the 18 game season there are alot of good owners out there but I don't believe there looking out for the players like they should.