Shanle Must Go!!!!!!

Danno · 03-16-2011, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't know what film you're watching; but Shanle isn't the problem...

The weakest link on a healthy Saints D first squad is SS Roman Harper......

Which is why he got more gameballs in 2010 than any other player on defense?

Harper is one of our best players on defense, and Gregg Williams agrees.

alleycat_126 · 03-16-2011, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126
So much so, that I would start the 24th overall pick on game 1 vs letting Scotty Mistackles play another down AS A STARTER. How the hell long is Vilma career gonna last if he gotta play 2 positions, DL to me is now a second round or free agent concern. We need a OLB from the 1st round!!!!!!

YOUR QUOTE!!!!
We could stand to upgrade no doubt, but I don't think he's as bad as so many make him out to be. The coaches certainly don't either, but I'm sure they'd be happy to upgrade that position if possible.

We are saying the same thing, and yes he is the weakest link on the chain, Harper actually does make plays. what was he smokin!!!! Anyways Shanle is always at or around the right spot, but to slow and sometimes even not strong enough to make the play. Frustrating to watch. I wasn't trying to argue whether or not he should or should not be on the team, more than likely he will. I know you get that idea from the title I apologize. It should read Shanle Must Go, Back to the bench. He was much more affective coming in off the bench than starting. It was more about the fact that to me the emphasis of this draft, which is DE heavy should be placed more on that OLB spot than DE.

papz · 03-16-2011, 10:25 PM

I'm more interested in a game changing DE than an OLB. I agree that we can use an upgrade out there, but it's not exactly that big of a hole on defense. Shanle by no means is a world beater, but contrary to many... he's a solid football player. Capable starter... quality backup which is where he's better suited at this stage in his career. He does get a lot of unnecessary flack from our fans... he was the best we had. We did also finish the season with a top ranked defense with a "crappy" OLB and average DE in Alex Brown. Honestly if Shanle were to start next year... though not ideal, I think we'll be okay.

jeanpierre · 03-16-2011, 10:48 PM

GW says ...

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Williams spoke glowingly of Shanle following the morning workout.

"Scott (Shanle) may be one of the most underrated linebackers in the National Football League. Scott Shanle can do it all for us. He can play all three positions...He can rush...He can cover...He can play physical. He's a strong, stout man on the line of scrimmage but his flexibility allows us to do an awful lot of things."

Added Williams: "And what I don't think people realize is his how well he runs. He can cover any back out of the backfield...I'm not afraid to have him lineup and cover wide receivers in a game, especially the big, tall matchups.

Scott Shanle is underrated, says New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams: video | NOLA.com

New Orleans Saints Gregg Williams on Scott Shanle's importance - Video | NOLA.com

AllSaints · 03-18-2011, 12:50 PM

I would much rather us get a DE/ DT with the first pick we need a PASS RUSHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD !

Danno · 03-18-2011, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by AllSaints

I would much rather us get a DE/ DT with the first pick we need a PASS RUSHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD !

Yep, I'm all for the BPA at DE/DT/LB.

I could live with an offensive player if he's rated significantly higher than anyone else left at pick 24 (RB, OT, WR, TE etc).

Rugby Saint II · 03-18-2011, 03:15 PM

Watching Scott Shanle reaching out for the ball carrier and not quite getting there is frustrating as can be. He's always just out of the play. I don't know if it's blown coverage, lack of speed or what but he just doesn't seem to get to the action on time. We do have LBers that were on IR last year that should help.

foreverfan · 03-18-2011, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't know what film you're watching; but Shanle isn't the problem...

The weakest link on a healthy Saints D first squad is SS Roman Harper...

If anything Shanle is usually coming from otherside to assist blown assignments...

Shanle looks bad because he does play for style points; he plays to win...

Shock Post... Watch it... are you trying to insight a riot?

NEXTPROBOWLER · 03-20-2011, 09:45 PM

isnt casillas suppose to have jets?? I mean, shanle biggest problem is his lack of speed..

BIGEASY504 · 03-21-2011, 10:46 AM

I would have kept Scott Fujita and released Scott Shanle he has been the week link since he's been with Saints; Do I foresee a Shanle must go thread

03-16-2011, 09:07 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't know what film you're watching; but Shanle isn't the problem... The weakest link on a healthy Saints D first squad is SS Roman Harper...... Which is why he got more gameballs in 2010 than any other player on defense? Harper is one of our best players on defense, and Gregg Williams agrees.

03-16-2011, 10:25 PM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	I'm more interested in a game changing DE than an OLB. I agree that we can use an upgrade out there, but it's not exactly that big of a hole on defense. Shanle by no means is a world beater, but contrary to many... he's a solid football player. Capable starter... quality backup which is where he's better suited at this stage in his career. He does get a lot of unnecessary flack from our fans... he was the best we had. We did also finish the season with a top ranked defense with a "crappy" OLB and average DE in Alex Brown. Honestly if Shanle were to start next year... though not ideal, I think we'll be okay.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

03-16-2011, 10:48 PM	#14
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	GW says ... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Williams spoke glowingly of Shanle following the morning workout. "Scott (Shanle) may be one of the most underrated linebackers in the National Football League. Scott Shanle can do it all for us. He can play all three positions...He can rush...He can cover...He can play physical. He's a strong, stout man on the line of scrimmage but his flexibility allows us to do an awful lot of things." Added Williams: "And what I don't think people realize is his how well he runs. He can cover any back out of the backfield...I'm not afraid to have him lineup and cover wide receivers in a game, especially the big, tall matchups. Scott Shanle is underrated, says New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams: video \| NOLA.com New Orleans Saints Gregg Williams on Scott Shanle's importance - Video \| NOLA.com

03-18-2011, 12:54 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Originally Posted by AllSaints I would much rather us get a DE/ DT with the first pick we need a PASS RUSHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD ! Yep, I'm all for the BPA at DE/DT/LB. I could live with an offensive player if he's rated significantly higher than anyone else left at pick 24 (RB, OT, WR, TE etc).

03-18-2011, 05:38 PM	#18
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't know what film you're watching; but Shanle isn't the problem... The weakest link on a healthy Saints D first squad is SS Roman Harper... If anything Shanle is usually coming from otherside to assist blown assignments... Shanle looks bad because he does play for style points; he plays to win... Shock Post... Watch it... are you trying to insight a riot?

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03-16-2011, 10:02 PM	#12
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 So much so, that I would start the 24th overall pick on game 1 vs letting Scotty Mistackles play another down AS A STARTER. How the hell long is Vilma career gonna last if he gotta play 2 positions, DL to me is now a second round or free agent concern. We need a OLB from the 1st round!!!!!! YOUR QUOTE!!!! We could stand to upgrade no doubt, but I don't think he's as bad as so many make him out to be. The coaches certainly don't either, but I'm sure they'd be happy to upgrade that position if possible. We are saying the same thing, and yes he is the weakest link on the chain, Harper actually does make plays. what was he smokin!!!! Anyways Shanle is always at or around the right spot, but to slow and sometimes even not strong enough to make the play. Frustrating to watch. I wasn't trying to argue whether or not he should or should not be on the team, more than likely he will. I know you get that idea from the title I apologize. It should read Shanle Must Go, Back to the bench. He was much more affective coming in off the bench than starting. It was more about the fact that to me the emphasis of this draft, which is DE heavy should be placed more on that OLB spot than DE.

03-18-2011, 12:50 PM	#15
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	I would much rather us get a DE/ DT with the first pick we need a PASS RUSHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BAD !

03-18-2011, 03:15 PM	#17
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Watching Scott Shanle reaching out for the ball carrier and not quite getting there is frustrating as can be. He's always just out of the play. I don't know if it's blown coverage, lack of speed or what but he just doesn't seem to get to the action on time. We do have LBers that were on IR last year that should help.

03-20-2011, 09:45 PM	#19
NEXTPROBOWLER 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 269	isnt casillas suppose to have jets?? I mean, shanle biggest problem is his lack of speed..

03-21-2011, 10:46 AM	#20
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	I would have kept Scott Fujita and released Scott Shanle he has been the week link since he's been with Saints; Do I foresee a Shanle must go thread
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