Intersting take on NFL Lockout.

lynwood · 03-21-2011, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP

Everyone needs to get rid of the "The owners are bosses and the players workers, just like my job" mindset, simply because it is wrong. They are MUCH closer to entertainers than they are 9 to 5ers.

Tom Hanks commands a huge salary for movies. The studio doesn't say "You will take what I offer or I'll cast someone else." because Tom Hanks draws a crowd. Without even hearing what the plot is, who the director is, who the co-stars are, or even the genre of movie, what would you choose... The new Tom Hanks movie, or the new Johnny Knoxville movie? Even if you choose Johnny Knoxville, you know damn well you are in the minority. Tom Hanks will bring in more people on his name alone, a lot more. So much more that he is worth the 10 - 20 million dollar difference in their salaries.

This works the same for football. Again, if you feel differently, that is fine, but you still have to recognize you are in the minority. When we picked up Drew Brees, season ticked sales soared. A few weeks later when we drafted Reggie, *BAM*, season tickets were sold out for the first time in a LOOONG time, and there is STILL a waiting list for them. Jay Cutler and Thomas Jones would not have caused that reaction because they don't have the star power. Not athletic skills and talents, because I would take Thomas Jones over Reggie every day of the week, but Jones would not have sold us out.

I wait tables, I have done it for ages, and I am DAMN good at it. Even so, I can't increase or decrease a restaurants business by 20% - 50% all by myself. I can make it run smoother, or more roughly... I can keep guests coming back, or keep them from coming back, but not in that quantity. When I get a job at a new restaurant the whole city is NOT a twitter about it. I have mad skills, but no star power. Thus I can't say open your books and show me why you can't pay me more than $2.13 an hour.

Hell, just take Reggie for example. Has Reggie earned his salary on the field? I'm going to go with "no" on that. I don't think he has quite played up to his salary. But that star power of his... That sold a lot of tickets. It sold a lot of jerseys, tee shirts, and hats. I'm sure Benson made a nice net profit off of that, even with Reggie's big salary.

Athletes equate to Actors/Entertainers, hourly employees do not equate to athletes. If you don't think that is "fair", well, tough **** comrade. Hell, even when the founding fathers said "All men are created equal." they said with with a wink and a nudge. I would even be willing to stipulate that all men are created equal, but that sure doesn't mean they stay that way.

I dissagree. I do not equate the two simply based on JOB!

Football is a sport no matter how much you'd like to put it in an Oscar catagory. ESPN turned it into a TMZ showcase.

When Brees was signed we finally had a winning QB to lead a TEAM! That's what sold tickets. RB was the most spectacular Athlete coming out of college. That is what sold tickets.

And YES the Studios still DECIDE who to offer the part to. Same with the NFL owners. The "Actor" can take whats offered or refuse. Actors have been known to do that. You never hear of Actors turining down a part or Studios passing on an Actor because salary demand was too high?

I don't watch football for the Drama, I watch for the competition and love of the sport. I watch a movie for entertainment and when it's over I don't go out and buy a Team Edward T-shirt. Big Difference.

Actors,Waiters,Nurses,Office managers,etc... ARE all teh same. They all work for someone else. Difference is how they get paid. Hourly or Salary.

I think your view on this is very skewed. And if you don't like that then tough ***** commie.

03-21-2011, 07:30 AM	#10
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	Originally Posted by Memnoch_TP Everyone needs to get rid of the "The owners are bosses and the players workers, just like my job" mindset, simply because it is wrong. They are MUCH closer to entertainers than they are 9 to 5ers. Tom Hanks commands a huge salary for movies. The studio doesn't say "You will take what I offer or I'll cast someone else." because Tom Hanks draws a crowd. Without even hearing what the plot is, who the director is, who the co-stars are, or even the genre of movie, what would you choose... The new Tom Hanks movie, or the new Johnny Knoxville movie? Even if you choose Johnny Knoxville, you know damn well you are in the minority. Tom Hanks will bring in more people on his name alone, a lot more. So much more that he is worth the 10 - 20 million dollar difference in their salaries. This works the same for football. Again, if you feel differently, that is fine, but you still have to recognize you are in the minority. When we picked up Drew Brees, season ticked sales soared. A few weeks later when we drafted Reggie, BAM, season tickets were sold out for the first time in a LOOONG time, and there is STILL a waiting list for them. Jay Cutler and Thomas Jones would not have caused that reaction because they don't have the star power. Not athletic skills and talents, because I would take Thomas Jones over Reggie every day of the week, but Jones would not have sold us out. I wait tables, I have done it for ages, and I am DAMN good at it. Even so, I can't increase or decrease a restaurants business by 20% - 50% all by myself. I can make it run smoother, or more roughly... I can keep guests coming back, or keep them from coming back, but not in that quantity. When I get a job at a new restaurant the whole city is NOT a twitter about it. I have mad skills, but no star power. Thus I can't say open your books and show me why you can't pay me more than $2.13 an hour. Hell, just take Reggie for example. Has Reggie earned his salary on the field? I'm going to go with "no" on that. I don't think he has quite played up to his salary. But that star power of his... That sold a lot of tickets. It sold a lot of jerseys, tee shirts, and hats. I'm sure Benson made a nice net profit off of that, even with Reggie's big salary. Athletes equate to Actors/Entertainers, hourly employees do not equate to athletes. If you don't think that is "fair", well, tough ** comrade. Hell, even when the founding fathers said "All men are created equal." they said with with a wink and a nudge. I would even be willing to stipulate that all men are created equal, but that sure doesn't mean they stay that way. I dissagree. I do not equate the two simply based on JOB! Football is a sport no matter how much you'd like to put it in an Oscar catagory. ESPN turned it into a TMZ showcase. When Brees was signed we finally had a winning QB to lead a TEAM! That's what sold tickets. RB was the most spectacular Athlete coming out of college. That is what sold tickets. And YES the Studios still DECIDE who to offer the part to. Same with the NFL owners. The "Actor" can take whats offered or refuse. Actors have been known to do that. You never hear of Actors turining down a part or Studios passing on an Actor because salary demand was too high? I don't watch football for the Drama, I watch for the competition and love of the sport. I watch a movie for entertainment and when it's over I don't go out and buy a Team Edward T-shirt. Big Difference. Actors,Waiters,Nurses,Office managers,etc... ARE all teh same. They all work for someone else. Difference is how they get paid. Hourly or Salary. I think your view on this is very skewed. And if you don't like that then tough *** commie.