The Fujitas - "The game that used and abused them"

ClintSaints · 03-22-2011, 10:17 AM

Wow, I'm really surprised by the hostility that is shown here towards football players. Astounding. The fact is, Scott Fujita DID help the Saints get their first Super Bowl. Seems like everyone here would rather put douchebags like Tom Benson on a pedestal and trash the players who brought us the Lombardi - the same players who are simply trying to get decent healthcare and a better salary - as anyone would in this situation. How many of YOU have actually played in the NFL? Of course, none of you have.

skymike · 03-22-2011, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by ClintSaints

... Seems like everyone here would rather put (tired epithet) like Tom Benson on a pedestal...

I dont know your age, but without Benson, the Saints would be owned by a guy named A.N. Pritzker, and they'd be playing in Chicago. (google -1985) I stand by my statement that Benson worked for what he has.
Originally Posted by ClintSaints

...Seems like everyone here would rather ...trash the players ...

You did catch this post, right? (below)

"At this point, I already sympathize with the average player. I know what its like to run till you puke, to break bones, and to study and work out and practice, and not get enough sleep. I know what its like to deal with pain every day. At this point, I like the players, they're still my heroes..."
Originally Posted by ClintSaints

...the same players who are simply trying to get decent healthcare and a better salary ...

Im guessing when you make a million dollars, Blue-Cross Blue Shield isnt really that big a chip out of your budget. They already have better insurance and healthcare than you or me. Bear in mind, I'm already sympathetic to their pension needs, only because I know a lot of people are too dumb to save and invest for the future, on their own.

Personally, healthcare & retirement is not a right of mine, nor a responsibility of my employer, but rather an added bonus. It is my responsibility to plan, save, & invest. (I am both poor and a minority.) If I have cable tv, tickets to the game, a flat screen, and a weight problem, chances are, I can afford an insurance premium.

I dont even need to address the salary statement.
Originally Posted by ClintSaints

How many of YOU have actually played in the NFL? Of course, none of you have.

Probably most of your Gulf Coast posters here, myself included, played football in school. For free. The hits were real, and so was the running.

I aint mad at you. I just disagree. And I think you're stating your side from the wrong angle. Nobody's going to buy that players are downtrodden or exploited, especially when you bring in "salary." Attack this instead from the angle that there is a 9 billion dollar piece of dessert that the owners dont seem to want to share. There's your argument.

Also note that we are nearly unanimous in disagreement with the owners
proposed 18 game schedule. We pretty much all hate the idea.

03-22-2011, 10:49 AM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by ClintSaints ... Seems like everyone here would rather put (tired epithet) like Tom Benson on a pedestal... I dont know your age, but without Benson, the Saints would be owned by a guy named A.N. Pritzker, and they'd be playing in Chicago. (google -1985) I stand by my statement that Benson worked for what he has. Originally Posted by ClintSaints ...Seems like everyone here would rather ...trash the players ... You did catch this post, right? (below) "At this point, I already sympathize with the average player. I know what its like to run till you puke, to break bones, and to study and work out and practice, and not get enough sleep. I know what its like to deal with pain every day. At this point, I like the players, they're still my heroes..." Originally Posted by ClintSaints ...the same players who are simply trying to get decent healthcare and a better salary ... Im guessing when you make a million dollars, Blue-Cross Blue Shield isnt really that big a chip out of your budget. They already have better insurance and healthcare than you or me. Bear in mind, I'm already sympathetic to their pension needs, only because I know a lot of people are too dumb to save and invest for the future, on their own. Personally, healthcare & retirement is not a right of mine, nor a responsibility of my employer, but rather an added bonus. It is my responsibility to plan, save, & invest. (I am both poor and a minority.) If I have cable tv, tickets to the game, a flat screen, and a weight problem, chances are, I can afford an insurance premium. I dont even need to address the salary statement. Originally Posted by ClintSaints How many of YOU have actually played in the NFL? Of course, none of you have. Probably most of your Gulf Coast posters here, myself included, played football in school. For free. The hits were real, and so was the running. I aint mad at you. I just disagree. And I think you're stating your side from the wrong angle. Nobody's going to buy that players are downtrodden or exploited, especially when you bring in "salary." Attack this instead from the angle that there is a 9 billion dollar piece of dessert that the owners dont seem to want to share. There's your argument. Also note that we are nearly unanimous in disagreement with the owners proposed 18 game schedule. We pretty much all hate the idea.
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03-22-2011, 10:17 AM	#1
ClintSaints 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glendale, CA Posts: 603	Wow, I'm really surprised by the hostility that is shown here towards football players. Astounding. The fact is, Scott Fujita DID help the Saints get their first Super Bowl. Seems like everyone here would rather put douchebags like Tom Benson on a pedestal and trash the players who brought us the Lombardi - the same players who are simply trying to get decent healthcare and a better salary - as anyone would in this situation. How many of YOU have actually played in the NFL? Of course, none of you have.