The Fujitas - "The game that used and abused them"

Memnoch_TP · 03-24-2011, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

You mean when a player signs a contract he should honor that contract? No more holding out for more money? No more *****ing to the media about how he needs more dime?

I would agree with your point if the contracts that they are cornered into signing weren't so one sided. If the owners were obligated to honor a contract as well, I would agree more. As it is, 4 years is 4 years for the players, but the owners can sign that contract and then cut you before the ink dries.

And there are more specific cases I can't fault the players for either. Like Vincent Jackson. The best WR his team has had in years, hugely talented, highly successful, one of the most productive players on the team... But he had no star power when he signed his contract, and got a scrub contract and then played like an all-pro. I don't blame him for finally saying "Screw this, the kicker makes 3 times more money than I do, my 3rd string backup makes twice the money I do, pay me!".

Originally Posted by saintfan

And I'm for old school Unions too, which is, sadly, not what most unions are today.

I'm totally with you there. When the unions were created they were sorely needed. Now they are a big part of what is hindering this country. Naturally, there are still unions that are exceptions to this, but for the most part...

Originally Posted by saintfan

At the end of the day, the owners own and the players play. I don't get to ask my boss to see the books. Neither do you. We'd both of us be out of a job if we did.

What you or I get to do is totally irrelevant. It should not, and does not, have any bearing on the NFL players and owners because neither your nor I are as indispensable to our bosses as the NFL players are to the NFL.

03-24-2011, 08:46 AM	#11
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by saintfan You mean when a player signs a contract he should honor that contract? No more holding out for more money? No more ***ing to the media about how he needs more dime? I would agree with your point if the contracts that they are cornered into signing weren't so one sided. If the owners were obligated to honor a contract as well, I would agree more. As it is, 4 years is 4 years for the players, but the owners can sign that contract and then cut you before the ink dries. And there are more specific cases I can't fault the players for either. Like Vincent Jackson. The best WR his team has had in years, hugely talented, highly successful, one of the most productive players on the team... But he had no star power when he signed his contract, and got a scrub contract and then played like an all-pro. I don't blame him for finally saying "Screw this, the kicker makes 3 times more money than I do, my 3rd string backup makes twice the money I do, pay me!". Originally Posted by saintfan And I'm for old school Unions too, which is, sadly, not what most unions are today. I'm totally with you there. When the unions were created they were sorely needed. Now they are a big part of what is hindering this country. Naturally, there are still unions that are exceptions to this, but for the most part... Originally Posted by saintfan** At the end of the day, the owners own and the players play. I don't get to ask my boss to see the books. Neither do you. We'd both of us be out of a job if we did. What you or I get to do is totally irrelevant. It should not, and does not, have any bearing on the NFL players and owners because neither your nor I are as indispensable to our bosses as the NFL players are to the NFL.
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