The Fujitas - "The game that used and abused them"

CheramieIII · 03-22-2011, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I don't care lady. My Daddy was a soldier. That "scotty" hurt hims wittle knee, well, I just don't give a damn. How 'bout that?

Somebody pimp-slap that ho.

Damn Pimp Daddy tells us how ya really feel!

neugey · 03-22-2011, 09:51 PM

If the Fujita's feel this way, why doesn't Scott just retire? If you don't like your employer and this worried about health issues, be done. He's a smart guy, could find a nice job.

Beastmode · 03-22-2011, 10:42 PM

The primary issue is money. I don't even know if health concerns were a tertiary issue.

44Champs · 03-23-2011, 10:48 AM

What I don't understand is this: With all the money these players make, they should be able to afford and should INVEST in a good health insurance policy. They don't have to rely on and they SHOULDN'T rely on team doctors to completely trust their bodies to.

ALLSAINTS66 · 03-23-2011, 12:20 PM

I just think it's weird that the players keep getting blamed for this.
From what I understand, there already WAS an agreement, and the
owners opted to back out of it early. Now the players are being
portrayed as greedy because they're not agreeing to a sudden
new deal.

I think of it like I agreed with payments to a car company
for a car, and partway before my loan was up, they opted out
of the contract, locked me out of my car, and told me I have to
give them more money to be able to use it again. I know a job
isn't a car, but still, there WAS already a contract in place!

Fujita's wife aside, my sympathy still falls squarely with the players.

And as for Benson... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to
move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater?
Yeah. I got no sympapthy for that guy. None whatsoever.
If it weren't for the NFL and the Commish, he would have
done it, too. I dont' care HOW hard he had to work to get
where he is. I never forget that if he'd've gotten what he
wanted, they'd be the San Antonio Saints.

I guess I'm just an oldschool bluecollar kinda gal. I side
squarely with the Unions, the players, and the working man.
Owners and management can all go to h#LL in my book.

Danno · 03-23-2011, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66

I just think it's weird that the players keep getting blamed for this.
From what I understand, there already WAS an agreement, and the
owners opted to back out of it early. Now the players are being
portrayed as greedy because they're not agreeing to a sudden
new deal.

I think of it like I agreed with payments to a car company
for a car, and partway before my loan was up, they opted out
of the contract, locked me out of my car, and told me I have to
give them more money to be able to use it again. I know a job
isn't a car, but still, there WAS already a contract in place!

But that contract said that if either of you were unhappy with the deal, you have the option to re-negotiate another contract at that point.

The owners did NOT back out of a contract, they simply exercised a mutally agreed upon right to renegotiate.

saintfan · 03-23-2011, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66

I just think it's weird that the players keep getting blamed for this.
From what I understand, there already WAS an agreement, and the
owners opted to back out of it early. Now the players are being
portrayed as greedy because they're not agreeing to a sudden
new deal.

I think of it like I agreed with payments to a car company
for a car, and partway before my loan was up, they opted out
of the contract, locked me out of my car, and told me I have to
give them more money to be able to use it again. I know a job
isn't a car, but still, there WAS already a contract in place!

Fujita's wife aside, my sympathy still falls squarely with the players.

And as for Benson... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to
move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater?
Yeah. I got no sympapthy for that guy. None whatsoever.
If it weren't for the NFL and the Commish, he would have
done it, too. I dont' care HOW hard he had to work to get
where he is. I never forget that if he'd've gotten what he
wanted, they'd be the San Antonio Saints.

I guess I'm just an oldschool bluecollar kinda gal. I side
squarely with the Unions, the players, and the working man.
Owners and management can all go to h#LL in my book.

You mean when a player signs a contract he should honor that contract? No more holding out for more money? No more *****ing to the media about how he needs more dime?

I'm with you. When you agree with someone on something you stick to it. As Danno stated, the owners aren't doing anything that wasn't provided them in the contract. And I'm for old school Unions too, which is, sadly, not what most unions are today.

Oh and Benson didn't want to move the team. He's one savvy old man. He got precisely what he wanted at the end of the day. Let's not forget his involvement in keeping the team in New Orleans to begin with.

I'm old school too. There is right and there is wrong on both sides of this or any disagreement, but you can't simply disregard what Fujita's wife is saying. It's part of the ploy. It's part of the marketing. It's part of the effort by the players to make us think they go through hell and that they are not fairly compensated. They are MORE than fairly compensated even if you add two more games to their season (something I'm against by the way).

At the end of the day, the owners own and the players play. I don't get to ask my boss to see the books. Neither do you. We'd both of us be out of a job if we did.

skymike · 03-23-2011, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66

And as for Benson... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to
move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater?
...

touche, '66. I cant defend that.

For the record, since you're new, I'll tell you this. If the Saints had
moved to S.A, which is nearly 3 hours close to my house than New Orleans--- I would have quit the NFL forever. I'm dead serious.

The reason we bought season tix was to do our part to keep them in N.O.

I more blue collary than some people can stand, but I disagree about unions always being the working man's friend.

--but its a good discussion.

Danno · 03-23-2011, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66

... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to
move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater?.

You mean the same Benson that was hated, maligned and ridiculed by many Saints fans for an entire decade?

The same Benson that fans wanted run out of town?

Yea, I'd consider relocation too.

saintfan · 03-23-2011, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by strato

Paul Tag saved the Saints..period

I will always believe Benson played that hand perfectly.

03-22-2011, 08:46 PM	#21
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by saintfan I don't care lady. My Daddy was a soldier. That "scotty" hurt hims wittle knee, well, I just don't give a damn. How 'bout that? Somebody pimp-slap that ho. Damn Pimp Daddy tells us how ya really feel!

03-22-2011, 10:42 PM	#23
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03-23-2011, 10:48 AM	#24
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	What I don't understand is this: With all the money these players make, they should be able to afford and should INVEST in a good health insurance policy. They don't have to rely on and they SHOULDN'T rely on team doctors to completely trust their bodies to.
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03-23-2011, 12:20 PM	#25
ALLSAINTS66 Bless You Boys! Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In mah hause. Posts: 319	I just think it's weird that the players keep getting blamed for this. From what I understand, there already WAS an agreement, and the owners opted to back out of it early. Now the players are being portrayed as greedy because they're not agreeing to a sudden new deal. I think of it like I agreed with payments to a car company for a car, and partway before my loan was up, they opted out of the contract, locked me out of my car, and told me I have to give them more money to be able to use it again. I know a job isn't a car, but still, there WAS already a contract in place! Fujita's wife aside, my sympathy still falls squarely with the players. And as for Benson... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater? Yeah. I got no sympapthy for that guy. None whatsoever. If it weren't for the NFL and the Commish, he would have done it, too. I dont' care HOW hard he had to work to get where he is. I never forget that if he'd've gotten what he wanted, they'd be the San Antonio Saints. I guess I'm just an oldschool bluecollar kinda gal. I side squarely with the Unions, the players, and the working man. Owners and management can all go to h#LL in my book.
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03-23-2011, 04:44 PM	#26
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66 I just think it's weird that the players keep getting blamed for this. From what I understand, there already WAS an agreement, and the owners opted to back out of it early. Now the players are being portrayed as greedy because they're not agreeing to a sudden new deal. I think of it like I agreed with payments to a car company for a car, and partway before my loan was up, they opted out of the contract, locked me out of my car, and told me I have to give them more money to be able to use it again. I know a job isn't a car, but still, there WAS already a contract in place! But that contract said that if either of you were unhappy with the deal, you have the option to re-negotiate another contract at that point. The owners did NOT back out of a contract, they simply exercised a mutally agreed upon right to renegotiate.

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03-22-2011, 09:51 PM	#22
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	If the Fujita's feel this way, why doesn't Scott just retire? If you don't like your employer and this worried about health issues, be done. He's a smart guy, could find a nice job.

03-23-2011, 05:04 PM	#27
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66 I just think it's weird that the players keep getting blamed for this. From what I understand, there already WAS an agreement, and the owners opted to back out of it early. Now the players are being portrayed as greedy because they're not agreeing to a sudden new deal. I think of it like I agreed with payments to a car company for a car, and partway before my loan was up, they opted out of the contract, locked me out of my car, and told me I have to give them more money to be able to use it again. I know a job isn't a car, but still, there WAS already a contract in place! Fujita's wife aside, my sympathy still falls squarely with the players. And as for Benson... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater? Yeah. I got no sympapthy for that guy. None whatsoever. If it weren't for the NFL and the Commish, he would have done it, too. I dont' care HOW hard he had to work to get where he is. I never forget that if he'd've gotten what he wanted, they'd be the San Antonio Saints. I guess I'm just an oldschool bluecollar kinda gal. I side squarely with the Unions, the players, and the working man. Owners and management can all go to h#LL in my book. You mean when a player signs a contract he should honor that contract? No more holding out for more money? No more *****ing to the media about how he needs more dime? I'm with you. When you agree with someone on something you stick to it. As Danno stated, the owners aren't doing anything that wasn't provided them in the contract. And I'm for old school Unions too, which is, sadly, not what most unions are today. Oh and Benson didn't want to move the team. He's one savvy old man. He got precisely what he wanted at the end of the day. Let's not forget his involvement in keeping the team in New Orleans to begin with. I'm old school too. There is right and there is wrong on both sides of this or any disagreement, but you can't simply disregard what Fujita's wife is saying. It's part of the ploy. It's part of the marketing. It's part of the effort by the players to make us think they go through hell and that they are not fairly compensated. They are MORE than fairly compensated even if you add two more games to their season (something I'm against by the way). At the end of the day, the owners own and the players play. I don't get to ask my boss to see the books. Neither do you. We'd both of us be out of a job if we did.
	C'mon Man...

03-23-2011, 05:13 PM	#28
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66 And as for Benson... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater? ... touche, '66. I cant defend that. For the record, since you're new, I'll tell you this. If the Saints had moved to S.A, which is nearly 3 hours close to my house than New Orleans--- I would have quit the NFL forever. I'm dead serious. The reason we bought season tix was to do our part to keep them in N.O. I more blue collary than some people can stand, but I disagree about unions always being the working man's friend. --but its a good discussion.

03-23-2011, 05:39 PM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by ALLSAINTS66 ... oh, you mean the Benson that wanted to move the Saints to Texas when the city was still underwater?. You mean the same Benson that was hated, maligned and ridiculed by many Saints fans for an entire decade? The same Benson that fans wanted run out of town? Yea, I'd consider relocation too.

03-23-2011, 06:42 PM	#30
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by strato Paul Tag saved the Saints..period I will always believe Benson played that hand perfectly.