UDFA - Terrence Tolliver

jeanpierre · 05-04-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by 21Hilliard

Is there anything in place saying UDFAs like Tolliver cannot work out with the players of a team like the Saints in these unofficial player workouts? Seems to me a good way to get a foot in the door, or at least a serious look at whenever training camp starts.

That would be considered tampering by the league

jeanpierre · 05-04-2011, 01:19 AM

Tolliver would be a great addition for the Saints and would develop quickly.

Problem is: Too many WR's already; we're still trying to find Arrington some PT so he can become what we traded back into the draft to get...

darstep · 05-04-2011, 07:17 AM

WR are the least of our problems. We've got more than we can use already and the ones we have are all good. Let's look around and see if there's a diamond in the rough D-lineman or linebacker, or a punt/kick-returner/special teamer hiding in the shadows.

SapperSaint · 05-04-2011, 09:06 AM

Yes, UDFA can do the unorganized work outs. ESPN said that at the Saints "player" practice, veterans, rookies and UDFA were at Tulane.

Back to the subject at hand....

I don't think there are many bigger "Homers" than me when it comes to LSU, but I'd have to pass on Terrence. I totally agree with darstep. The last thing we need is another WR. Go find some D-linemen, LB's and an O-line man.

Rugby Saint II · 05-04-2011, 03:13 PM

We have more pressing issues than wide receiver.....in fact we're deep enough to trade a receiver. Just Sayin'.

papz · 05-04-2011, 04:12 PM

Remember we're going to roster 80 to 100 players this offseason with UDFA's and non-roster invitees, we're not going to invite strictly one group of positional players. There's nothing wrong with bringing a WR, P, K, RB, QB... whatever position in for a look see. It doesn't need to be regulated strictly to positions of need. I don't understand they complaints of bringing in a guy that has some talent like Tolliver in for a try out... it's not like we're guaranteeing these guys anything.

With an NFL roster being 53 and supposely our biggest need is at LB, should we invite 57 LB's in for training camp?

All this unwarranted silly talk.

SmashMouth · 05-04-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by papz

Remember we're going to roster 80 to 100 players this offseason with UDFA's and non-roster invitees, we're not going to invite strictly one group of positional players. There's nothing wrong with bringing a WR, P, K, RB, QB... whatever position in for a look see. It doesn't need to be regulated strictly to positions of need. I don't understand they complaints of bringing in a guy that has some talent like Tolliver in for a try out... it's not like we're guaranteeing these guys anything.

With an NFL roster being 53 and supposely our biggest need is at LB, should we invite 57 LB's in for training camp?

All this unwarranted silly talk.

SapperSaint · 05-04-2011, 10:32 PM

good point Papz

darstep · 05-05-2011, 08:38 AM

Tolliver needs to camp with the team that gives him the best chance to make it in the NFL ... I just don't believe that's the Saints. It's not that we shouldn't invite him, but he should decline our invitation and go some place else where there is a weaker receiver crew.

jeanpierre · 05-05-2011, 11:15 AM

I'd love to have Tolliver as a fifth to develop, if...

Arrington could be moved to the 3rd receiver...

Henderson could be traded for a LB or S...

If Reggie stays (which I hope he will), I'd move Moore and his fair catch return ways...

Tolliver has first round talent...

He just needs the right system to develop; and, can you think of a better system in the NFL?

05-04-2011, 01:17 AM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by 21Hilliard Is there anything in place saying UDFAs like Tolliver cannot work out with the players of a team like the Saints in these unofficial player workouts? Seems to me a good way to get a foot in the door, or at least a serious look at whenever training camp starts. That would be considered tampering by the league

05-04-2011, 04:12 PM	#16
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Remember we're going to roster 80 to 100 players this offseason with UDFA's and non-roster invitees, we're not going to invite strictly one group of positional players. There's nothing wrong with bringing a WR, P, K, RB, QB... whatever position in for a look see. It doesn't need to be regulated strictly to positions of need. I don't understand they complaints of bringing in a guy that has some talent like Tolliver in for a try out... it's not like we're guaranteeing these guys anything. With an NFL roster being 53 and supposely our biggest need is at LB, should we invite 57 LB's in for training camp? All this unwarranted silly talk.
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05-04-2011, 05:35 PM	#17
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	: Originally Posted by papz Remember we're going to roster 80 to 100 players this offseason with UDFA's and non-roster invitees, we're not going to invite strictly one group of positional players. There's nothing wrong with bringing a WR, P, K, RB, QB... whatever position in for a look see. It doesn't need to be regulated strictly to positions of need. I don't understand they complaints of bringing in a guy that has some talent like Tolliver in for a try out... it's not like we're guaranteeing these guys anything. With an NFL roster being 53 and supposely our biggest need is at LB, should we invite 57 LB's in for training camp? All this unwarranted silly talk.

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05-04-2011, 01:19 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Tolliver would be a great addition for the Saints and would develop quickly. Problem is: Too many WR's already; we're still trying to find Arrington some PT so he can become what we traded back into the draft to get...

05-04-2011, 07:17 AM	#13
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	WR are the least of our problems. We've got more than we can use already and the ones we have are all good. Let's look around and see if there's a diamond in the rough D-lineman or linebacker, or a punt/kick-returner/special teamer hiding in the shadows.

05-04-2011, 09:06 AM	#14
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Yes, UDFA can do the unorganized work outs. ESPN said that at the Saints "player" practice, veterans, rookies and UDFA were at Tulane. Back to the subject at hand.... I don't think there are many bigger "Homers" than me when it comes to LSU, but I'd have to pass on Terrence. I totally agree with darstep. The last thing we need is another WR. Go find some D-linemen, LB's and an O-line man.

05-04-2011, 03:13 PM	#15
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	We have more pressing issues than wide receiver.....in fact we're deep enough to trade a receiver. Just Sayin'.

05-04-2011, 10:32 PM	#18
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	good point Papz

05-05-2011, 08:38 AM	#19
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Tolliver needs to camp with the team that gives him the best chance to make it in the NFL ... I just don't believe that's the Saints. It's not that we shouldn't invite him, but he should decline our invitation and go some place else where there is a weaker receiver crew.

05-05-2011, 11:15 AM	#20
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	I'd love to have Tolliver as a fifth to develop, if... Arrington could be moved to the 3rd receiver... Henderson could be traded for a LB or S... If Reggie stays (which I hope he will), I'd move Moore and his fair catch return ways... Tolliver has first round talent... He just needs the right system to develop; and, can you think of a better system in the NFL?