What is Brooks' margin for error?

saintz08 · 12-13-2003, 11:41 PM

And in the most recent storyline coming from ESPN :

Some coaches and team officials in New Orleans are increasingly frustrated by the inconsistent play of quarterback Aaron Brooks, who leads the NFL in total fumbles (13) and fumbles lost (10). Brooks has accounted for 18 of the team\'s 26 turnovers and is simply careless with the football too often. The team has invested a lot of money in the veteran quarterback but, justifiably so, coach Jim Haslett took Brooks to task this week. It just seems that Brooks has very little pocket awareness, lacks concentration at times and isn\'t a big-game player. There is a chance, if the Saints fall completely out of the playoff chase and Brooks doesn\'t heed warnings, that New Orleans will give Todd Bouman a start before the end of the season. Bouman recently signed a new contract extension that included a bonus of $1.255 million, with base salaries of $725,000 (in 2004), $750,000 (2005) and $700,000 (2006), There are workout bonuses of $25,000 for all three years and a $300,000 roster bonus for 2006.

BillyC · 12-14-2003, 12:35 AM

1993

Wade Wilson

During one bad game in the Superdome on a Monday night , the fans started chanting Buck , Buck , Buck . Wilson goes down with an injury on the field and as they are carting him off 60, 000 plus fans are cheering .

Dierdorf goes into some disortation about classless fans .

Yep, I do rememeber that game. It was a classless act IMO. I remember Dierdorf really getting pissed about the way the crowd was cheering. Just imagine what some fans would do if Brooks got hurt. Brooks is like the anit-Christ to some people.

BrooksMustGo · 12-14-2003, 10:10 AM

No real fan of the Saints wants to see Brooks get hurt. It would hurt his trade value too much.

People who are tired of Brooks lack of discipline and focus want to see him throw about 400 yards a game on about a 70% completion rate these next few games.

That way the Chargers won\'t insist on taking too much from us to unload him.

BillyC · 12-14-2003, 10:19 AM

No real fan of the Saints wants to see Brooks get hurt. It would hurt his trade value too much.

People who are tired of Brooks lack of discipline and focus want to see him throw about 400 yards a game on about a 70% completion rate these next few games.

That way the Chargers won\'t insist on taking too much from us to unload him.

Aiiiight!! That\'s a good one. You get points. Y\'all Brooks bashers don\'t bother me like you used to. I\'ve grown as a poster.I\'m not going to let it get to me.....

\"I\'m going to respond well, and post my butt off and do everything I can to help this board. \"Even if I don\'t, it doesn\'t matter to me because I feel good about myself, and my posting ability. I know I\'m a successful person :P :P :P

[Edited on 14/12/2003 by BillyC]

rich006 · 12-14-2003, 11:27 AM

I\'d love to see Brooks traded so we could get Eli, but I don\'t see it happening even if Saints management wants to do it. What team is going to take Brooks over the chance to draft Eli? Sure, he\'s got talent, but Eli is as close to a sure thing as you can get in a draft pick. If I\'m the Chargers, I\'d draft Eli rather than investing in Brooks. Can anybody work out specifically how we might be able to get Eli?

saintz08 · 12-14-2003, 01:16 PM

Brooks and a no.1 to San Diego for their no .1 if they have the first pick or are close enoungh to get Eli .

San Diego busted on Leaf in the draft and have had issues with the last qb they drafted . Schottenheimer will need experience to save his job in San Diego next year . If San Diego pulls the trigger on a rookie in the draft , Schottenheimer is dead .

Not dropping to far in the draft and getting a veteran Qb who can step in and run the offense , would make the season a little better for Schottenheimer .

If the Saints toss in a 3rd and 4th or so the deal would be better for San Diego .

BillyC · 12-14-2003, 01:20 PM

Let\'s think about that for a minute 08. The Chargers need a QB. Eli is avaliable in the draft and is the best QB to come out of college in the draft since Peyton. The fans know the Chargers can get Eli, but they trade that chance to get Brooks. Any coach that would do that would be a damn fool and get run out of town. Can you imagine what would happen to Schottenheimer if that didn\'t work out. It ain\'t happening.

[Edited on 14/12/2003 by BillyC]

rich006 · 12-14-2003, 02:55 PM

I don\'t always agree with you Billy, but in this case I think you\'re absolutely right. I think anybody in San Diego who was responsible for NOT drafting Eli would be beaten to a bloody pulp and left in a dumpster in Tijuana. However, let\'s hope 08 is right. I think I\'ll have some of that Kool-aid now...

saintz08 · 12-14-2003, 03:01 PM

Here are the feelings in San Diego .

Notice the poster name .

Looks like the Chargers are looking to win fast and putting another rookie in as the starter is leaving a bad taste in fans mouths . If they were going to justify that they might go for the Oklahoma Qb who won the Heisman .

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If we pick up brunell, get DEFENSE in the draft all around the board keep brees as a back up or drop him and keep flutie as a back up. Then sign a few FA offensive linemen and stumble on a good FA kicker we got the super bowl, imagine how sick this team would be with Brunell, #2 slot reciever next to boston of his caliber, some talented offensive lineman, and top picks on the D line from the draft. Wow i know for a fact if we get brunell i will get that nfl pass shyt so i can watch the chargers here in jersey the man is soo good. It would be fireworks if we somehow work this.

saintz08 · 12-14-2003, 03:06 PM

My personal favorite scenario .

Haslett to Buffalo for a first round pick .....

Brooks to trade in draft pick option .

Armed with 2 first round picks and a veteran Qb to trade , the possibilities look great .

Hire Coughlin , who Benson is already comfortable with , and sign Brunell to tutor Eli ....

12-13-2003, 11:41 PM	#11
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? And in the most recent storyline coming from ESPN : Some coaches and team officials in New Orleans are increasingly frustrated by the inconsistent play of quarterback Aaron Brooks, who leads the NFL in total fumbles (13) and fumbles lost (10). Brooks has accounted for 18 of the team\'s 26 turnovers and is simply careless with the football too often. The team has invested a lot of money in the veteran quarterback but, justifiably so, coach Jim Haslett took Brooks to task this week. It just seems that Brooks has very little pocket awareness, lacks concentration at times and isn\'t a big-game player. There is a chance, if the Saints fall completely out of the playoff chase and Brooks doesn\'t heed warnings, that New Orleans will give Todd Bouman a start before the end of the season. Bouman recently signed a new contract extension that included a bonus of $1.255 million, with base salaries of $725,000 (in 2004), $750,000 (2005) and $700,000 (2006), There are workout bonuses of $25,000 for all three years and a $300,000 roster bonus for 2006.
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

12-14-2003, 12:35 AM	#12
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What is Brooks' margin for error? 1993 Wade Wilson During one bad game in the Superdome on a Monday night , the fans started chanting Buck , Buck , Buck . Wilson goes down with an injury on the field and as they are carting him off 60, 000 plus fans are cheering . Dierdorf goes into some disortation about classless fans . Yep, I do rememeber that game. It was a classless act IMO. I remember Dierdorf really getting pissed about the way the crowd was cheering. Just imagine what some fans would do if Brooks got hurt. Brooks is like the anit-Christ to some people.
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12-14-2003, 10:10 AM	#13
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	What is Brooks' margin for error? No real fan of the Saints wants to see Brooks get hurt. It would hurt his trade value too much. People who are tired of Brooks lack of discipline and focus want to see him throw about 400 yards a game on about a 70% completion rate these next few games. That way the Chargers won\'t insist on taking too much from us to unload him.

12-14-2003, 10:19 AM	#14
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What is Brooks' margin for error? No real fan of the Saints wants to see Brooks get hurt. It would hurt his trade value too much. People who are tired of Brooks lack of discipline and focus want to see him throw about 400 yards a game on about a 70% completion rate these next few games. That way the Chargers won\'t insist on taking too much from us to unload him. Aiiiight!! That\'s a good one. You get points. Y\'all Brooks bashers don\'t bother me like you used to. I\'ve grown as a poster.I\'m not going to let it get to me..... \"I\'m going to respond well, and post my butt off and do everything I can to help this board. \"Even if I don\'t, it doesn\'t matter to me because I feel good about myself, and my posting ability. I know I\'m a successful person :P :P :P [Edited on 14/12/2003 by BillyC]
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12-14-2003, 11:27 AM	#15
rich006 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 335	What is Brooks' margin for error? I\'d love to see Brooks traded so we could get Eli, but I don\'t see it happening even if Saints management wants to do it. What team is going to take Brooks over the chance to draft Eli? Sure, he\'s got talent, but Eli is as close to a sure thing as you can get in a draft pick. If I\'m the Chargers, I\'d draft Eli rather than investing in Brooks. Can anybody work out specifically how we might be able to get Eli?
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12-14-2003, 01:16 PM	#16
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? Brooks and a no.1 to San Diego for their no .1 if they have the first pick or are close enoungh to get Eli . San Diego busted on Leaf in the draft and have had issues with the last qb they drafted . Schottenheimer will need experience to save his job in San Diego next year . If San Diego pulls the trigger on a rookie in the draft , Schottenheimer is dead . Not dropping to far in the draft and getting a veteran Qb who can step in and run the offense , would make the season a little better for Schottenheimer . If the Saints toss in a 3rd and 4th or so the deal would be better for San Diego .
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

12-14-2003, 01:20 PM	#17
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What is Brooks' margin for error? Let\'s think about that for a minute 08. The Chargers need a QB. Eli is avaliable in the draft and is the best QB to come out of college in the draft since Peyton. The fans know the Chargers can get Eli, but they trade that chance to get Brooks. Any coach that would do that would be a damn fool and get run out of town. Can you imagine what would happen to Schottenheimer if that didn\'t work out. It ain\'t happening. [Edited on 14/12/2003 by BillyC]
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12-14-2003, 02:55 PM	#18
rich006 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 335	What is Brooks' margin for error? I don\'t always agree with you Billy, but in this case I think you\'re absolutely right. I think anybody in San Diego who was responsible for NOT drafting Eli would be beaten to a bloody pulp and left in a dumpster in Tijuana. However, let\'s hope 08 is right. I think I\'ll have some of that Kool-aid now...
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12-14-2003, 03:01 PM	#19
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? Here are the feelings in San Diego . Notice the poster name . Looks like the Chargers are looking to win fast and putting another rookie in as the starter is leaving a bad taste in fans mouths . If they were going to justify that they might go for the Oklahoma Qb who won the Heisman . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ryanleafsfault Member Joined: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 14 Boltbucks: 336 View user\'s items Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 1:12 pm Post subject: i bet chargers win it all next year -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we pick up brunell, get DEFENSE in the draft all around the board keep brees as a back up or drop him and keep flutie as a back up. Then sign a few FA offensive linemen and stumble on a good FA kicker we got the super bowl, imagine how sick this team would be with Brunell, #2 slot reciever next to boston of his caliber, some talented offensive lineman, and top picks on the D line from the draft. Wow i know for a fact if we get brunell i will get that nfl pass shyt so i can watch the chargers here in jersey the man is soo good. It would be fireworks if we somehow work this.
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12-14-2003, 03:06 PM	#20
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? My personal favorite scenario . Haslett to Buffalo for a first round pick ..... Brooks to trade in draft pick option . Armed with 2 first round picks and a veteran Qb to trade , the possibilities look great . Hire Coughlin , who Benson is already comfortable with , and sign Brunell to tutor Eli ....
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