What is Brooks' margin for error?

saintz08 · 12-19-2003, 11:02 AM

Hey BrooksMustGo ,

Here is the potential for other no.1 pick ......

Are you still waiting to see Willis McGahee? All that talk about how he would play this season for the Bills and be a 1,000-yard rusher was nothing but hype by his agent. McGahee has not played a down, and probably shouldn\'t at this point. McGahee was a bad pick for this current coaching regime since it won\'t be around. There has been some talk lately that Gregg Williams might keep his job, but word is the Bills have already decided to let Williams go. That could mean Jim Haslett could be going to Buffalo. Haslett played with the Bills and his wife is from that area. Haslett doesn\'t have an out clause in his contract, but the word is the Saints would let him go if a request was made. Haslett and Bills GM Tom Donahoe are good friends.

Danno · 12-19-2003, 11:08 AM

Hey BMG ........

COUGHLIN COULD BE HAMPERED BY REP

As word continues to circulate regarding the possible ultimate destination of former Jags coach Tom Coughlin, there\'s growing concern that his reputation as a taskmaster could make it hard to keep and/or attract free agents.

\"Players don\'t want to deal with him,\" said a league source.

Coughlin typically is regarded as a strict disciplinarian. Unlike Bill Parcells (with whom Coughlin coached in New York more than a decade ago), Coughlin doesn\'t bring charm to the equation along with the chutzpah.

Plus, Coughlin\'s desire to control a team\'s football operations could be problematic. As we reported last week, rumors linking him to the coming Giants vacancy have sputtered in light of the fact that many league insiders believe that Coughlin won\'t be able to work with G.M. Ernie Accorsi.

The Saints remain a possibility for Coughlin -- and you can bet that Joe Horn\'s cell phone will be crammed not under a goal post but into his ass crack if he tries a stunt like that on Coughlin\'s watch.

I heard the same things about Seargent Coughlin. But I also heard he\'s had some heart to hearts with his players the last couple of years and he\'s lightened up quite a bit.
I guess when quality players continue to leave via free-agency you need some self-evaluation.

saintz08 · 12-19-2003, 04:10 PM

I guess when quality players continue to leave via free-agency you need some self-evaluation.

How about when every year you have a locker room distraction ??

saintz08 · 01-05-2004, 04:14 PM

And the San Diego trade rumor jumps to another board.....

:yltype:

Just need a little more fanning the flames here..lol
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Does the Brooks Trade have any real substance?
Just curious.... I think that trading him would set us back even further than we already have been by this coaching staff... but it does sound tempting... i think it is a bad idea... the trade I am talking about is supposedly the chargers trading their #1 pick to us for Brooks, so we could draft Eli ??? sounds TOO Ditka-ish to me...

I wouldn\'t put it past this franchise to do something off the wall like this though...

the whole thing doesn\'t make sense cause it would most likely not yield a positive result for AT LEAST 2 to 3 years after we do it....

don\'t get me wrong Eli will be good, BUT even Peyton took a bunch of years to cut down on the dreaded interceptions!!! that we JUST got rid of from Brooks...

I like Brooks... I just happen to think our coaching ***** & ***** SOME MORE.... LIKE A 2 dollar hooker....

peace out.... Just where are the Saints headed???

sammy

BlackandBlue · 01-05-2004, 04:37 PM

Ole Sammy sounds bitter about the coaching staff. You would think the Miami weather would have him in better spirits... :P

saintz08 · 01-05-2004, 06:52 PM

Ole Sammy sounds bitter about the coaching staff. You would think the Miami weather would have him in better spirits...

Ricky\'s hoggin the prozac in Miami ......Not enough joy joy feelin left for Sammy ... :P

WhoDat · 01-05-2004, 08:08 PM

A high first rounder for Brooks. Hhhmmm... I like it.

saintz08 · 01-06-2004, 08:30 PM

Hmmmm.

This seems to be cutting into my supposed scenario :

ESPNews reports the New York Giants have agreed to a four-year contract with Tom Coughlin, a former head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Might have to hold out for Romeo Crommel ......

My personal favorite scenario .

Haslett to Buffalo for a first round pick .....

Brooks to trade in draft pick option .

Armed with 2 first round picks and a veteran Qb to trade to San Diego , the possibilities look great .

Draft : Eli Manning

Hire Coughlin , who Benson is already comfortable with , and sign Brunell to tutor Eli ....

BillyC · 01-07-2004, 07:54 AM

I like all of you Brooks\' bashers getting your hopes up about shipping Brooks out of town and drafting Eli Manning. Oh, the pain you guys will feel when Eli is drafted by some other team and Brooks is under center for the first regular season game.

I\'ll be here on draft day to watch all of you suffer.

jm · 01-07-2004, 08:58 AM

Billy is right. Brooks will be here for near future. And so will most of the coaches and management personnel. Not much will change next year including the results.
What\'s worse than 3 consecutive under acheiving seasons? 4 consecutive under acheiving seasons.

12-19-2003, 11:02 AM	#31
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? Hey BrooksMustGo , Here is the potential for other no.1 pick ...... Are you still waiting to see Willis McGahee? All that talk about how he would play this season for the Bills and be a 1,000-yard rusher was nothing but hype by his agent. McGahee has not played a down, and probably shouldn\'t at this point. McGahee was a bad pick for this current coaching regime since it won\'t be around. There has been some talk lately that Gregg Williams might keep his job, but word is the Bills have already decided to let Williams go. That could mean Jim Haslett could be going to Buffalo. Haslett played with the Bills and his wife is from that area. Haslett doesn\'t have an out clause in his contract, but the word is the Saints would let him go if a request was made. Haslett and Bills GM Tom Donahoe are good friends.
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

12-19-2003, 11:08 AM	#32
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	What is Brooks' margin for error? Hey BMG ........ COUGHLIN COULD BE HAMPERED BY REP As word continues to circulate regarding the possible ultimate destination of former Jags coach Tom Coughlin, there\'s growing concern that his reputation as a taskmaster could make it hard to keep and/or attract free agents. \"Players don\'t want to deal with him,\" said a league source. Coughlin typically is regarded as a strict disciplinarian. Unlike Bill Parcells (with whom Coughlin coached in New York more than a decade ago), Coughlin doesn\'t bring charm to the equation along with the chutzpah. Plus, Coughlin\'s desire to control a team\'s football operations could be problematic. As we reported last week, rumors linking him to the coming Giants vacancy have sputtered in light of the fact that many league insiders believe that Coughlin won\'t be able to work with G.M. Ernie Accorsi. The Saints remain a possibility for Coughlin -- and you can bet that Joe Horn\'s cell phone will be crammed not under a goal post but into his ass crack if he tries a stunt like that on Coughlin\'s watch. I heard the same things about Seargent Coughlin. But I also heard he\'s had some heart to hearts with his players the last couple of years and he\'s lightened up quite a bit. I guess when quality players continue to leave via free-agency you need some self-evaluation.

12-19-2003, 04:10 PM	#33
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? I guess when quality players continue to leave via free-agency you need some self-evaluation. How about when every year you have a locker room distraction ??
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01-05-2004, 04:14 PM	#34
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? And the San Diego trade rumor jumps to another board..... :yltype: Just need a little more fanning the flames here..lol ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does the Brooks Trade have any real substance? Just curious.... I think that trading him would set us back even further than we already have been by this coaching staff... but it does sound tempting... i think it is a bad idea... the trade I am talking about is supposedly the chargers trading their #1 pick to us for Brooks, so we could draft Eli ??? sounds TOO Ditka-ish to me... I wouldn\'t put it past this franchise to do something off the wall like this though... the whole thing doesn\'t make sense cause it would most likely not yield a positive result for AT LEAST 2 to 3 years after we do it.... don\'t get me wrong Eli will be good, BUT even Peyton took a bunch of years to cut down on the dreaded interceptions!!! that we JUST got rid of from Brooks... I like Brooks... I just happen to think our coaching *** & *** SOME MORE.... LIKE A 2 dollar hooker.... peace out.... Just where are the Saints headed??? sammy
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

01-05-2004, 04:37 PM	#35
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01-05-2004, 06:52 PM	#36
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? Ole Sammy sounds bitter about the coaching staff. You would think the Miami weather would have him in better spirits... Ricky\'s hoggin the prozac in Miami ......Not enough joy joy feelin left for Sammy ... :P
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01-05-2004, 08:08 PM	#37
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	What is Brooks' margin for error? A high first rounder for Brooks. Hhhmmm... I like it.
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01-06-2004, 08:30 PM	#38
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	What is Brooks' margin for error? Hmmmm. This seems to be cutting into my supposed scenario : ESPNews reports the New York Giants have agreed to a four-year contract with Tom Coughlin, a former head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Might have to hold out for Romeo Crommel ...... My personal favorite scenario . Haslett to Buffalo for a first round pick ..... Brooks to trade in draft pick option . Armed with 2 first round picks and a veteran Qb to trade to San Diego , the possibilities look great . Draft : Eli Manning Hire Coughlin , who Benson is already comfortable with , and sign Brunell to tutor Eli ....
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01-07-2004, 07:54 AM	#39
BillyC Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 842	What is Brooks' margin for error? I like all of you Brooks\' bashers getting your hopes up about shipping Brooks out of town and drafting Eli Manning. Oh, the pain you guys will feel when Eli is drafted by some other team and Brooks is under center for the first regular season game. I\'ll be here on draft day to watch all of you suffer.
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01-07-2004, 08:58 AM	#40
jm 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 133	What is Brooks' margin for error? Billy is right. Brooks will be here for near future. And so will most of the coaches and management personnel. Not much will change next year including the results. What\'s worse than 3 consecutive under acheiving seasons? 4 consecutive under acheiving seasons.
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