Soooo, does Brees want out?
 

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Or am I taking this the wrong way?

i dont get it

I don't think Mankins will be the issue. Jackson, on the other hand.... I think he has a case of "I got's to get mine" on the brain.

The reason I ask about Drew is because, He has to know he is going to get paid by the Saints. For him to want to be a FA out-right. That makes be think he is money hunting now. One of those, "Well boys, I got my MVP and Ring now. Time for Drew to get paid!"

Lord, I hope I'm reading too much into this. I pray this lockout ends before I start to hate Pro football.

I don't either!:dunce:

That's why I want someone a hellava lot smarter than myself to explain Drews complaint.

This is the part that I am questioning Drew on.

"The Boston Globe said that both Manning and Brees were seeking to avoid the use of a franchise tag, which would make Manning an unrestricted free agent after this season, and give Brees the same status after the 2011 season."

Someone explain.....

WOW our bratty sister board is throwing Brees under a bus. Most are siding with the Vikings punter that called Brees a D-bag.
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Also Shanle has turned on Brees.
Shanle just tweeted this: - SaintsReport Community Forums

What a sad say it is to be a Saints fan.

Ah...can someone tell me what the hell is going on?

So, as it is now, Brees becomes a free agent at the end of this season, right? But with the franchise tag, it would keep him from becoming a free agent. So he wants to make a deal that would prevent the Saints from "tagging" him. Therefore becomming a free agent next year anyway. Am I correct on this so far?
Now, he is about to become one of the highest, or maybe even the highest paid NFL player in history, am I correct?. And it sounds like he may want more?

Someone help me out. Is this correct, or am I thinking about this all wrong?

Now do you guys at least understand why I did not like Brees taking the lead in this CBA crap?

STFU!!!!

Or about as stupid as burning two picks on the least important position on a football team?:p

Punters aren't really football players, so STFU!

1stly, hate to admit it but if it were any other qb in the league we would be saying the same thing. if your mom is a prostitute she is still a whore. i agree with whoever said that about why we didnt want him to be involved to begin with. why should he get preferential treatment? believe me i hope the guy retires here but just because he got involved shouldnt exempt him from reality and/or what every other player is subject to.

2ndly, i wish shanle would go play in traffic. i hope that just sealed his fate as a saint and loomis shoves his foot so far up his @$$ that he can taste the dog $h!t on the sole.

but back to the original question...no way he wants out. hes just looking out for himself. and i bet this was all taken out of context

EXACTLY!!!

Same with Bush, if he were a Falcon we'd be ridiculing them daily.
Same with Morstead, if Atlanta burned 2 picks on a punter, we'd be LOMFAO at them!

I'm not saying I don't rag on other teams players a bit unfairly at times, its fan nature. And besides, teams like Atlanta deserve it.:p

Jerry Kramer is a ballsy SOB too. I don't hear many wanting him on their side.

I prefer my QB simply shut up and play football.

Relax people...... Breesus Christ! ... Drew will be a Saint for life after which he will be enshrined.

Because it annoys you. ;)

Not harping, just illustrating the hypocrisy.

We tolerate a lot more BS from our own popular players than players of other teams. I think its funny. If Joe Horn spent his career elsewhere 90% of Saints fans would despise him.

This is just leverage incase an extension isn't reached and he hits the free agent market when his contract is up. He's just leveling the playing field. He's not going anywhere and I don't know what the fuss is all about.

Does Peyton Manning want out of Indy? I am going to answer my own question. NO.

Drew Brees will be in the same position in 2012 as Manning is in now.

Manning will sign a large contract with the Colts when the lockout ends (even with his off-season neck surgery). Brees will do the same with the Saints. I really don't see any cause for alarm.

Its all totally clear now. Payton moves to Dallas, and is seen hanging with Dallas players. Payton and JJ have a handshake deal for Payton to coach the Cowboys next year.....and bring Brees with him. Its a total Willie Beeman Any Given Sunday deal. If Brees gets what he wants he can walk after next season and go with Payton to Dallas. These guys have been planning this all along. You read it here first....

Yall are losing yall's mind if you think any of that has to do with the players wanting out of there current teams.

All that it means is that those players don't want to be stuck playing for the average of the top 5 players at their position for the year.

Honestly I don't blame them they are all trying to one up themselves to be the highest paid player in the league.

Think about it... That is a year they won't be or delay being the highest paid player in the league. That is all it really means. IF they really want out they can be franchised only so many times then they have to be a FA under the current.

I am not losing sleep over that and its so petty it won't become apart of the final deal... I'd put money on it.

Well said Euph. I'm reading through this thread and not sure why everybody is freaking out. No player wants a one-year deal; they want the security of a multi-year deal. Brees still has one year left on his contract, and doesn't want to be tagged. Am I missing something?

He is just following his agents advice. He's a Saint for life.:smile:

Yes. And if I can add - what Brees is doing now is for the players of the future.

Anyone watch the recent HBO special; "Curious Case of Carl Flood"?

Brees basically wants the same thing.

You guys have to realize that even though Brady, Brees, and Manning "represent" the players, they only truly represent about 1% of the players. These guys are elite, and are or will be the highest paid players in the league. They have a lot more to gain from this posturing than your average player. For every Brady, Manning, or Brees who have multi million dollar contracts there are 100 Arringtons, Shanles, Weatherfords, and Reis', these are the guys who really are the NFL. 99% of the leagues players are just sick and tired of this and want to get back to playing football and making money. FA especially have a lot more to lose than these star players that are in on the negotiations. I can totally understand Shanles frustrations. The average NFL player will never hit free agency as the average career span of an NFL player is 3.5 years (I dont care how Goodall tries to spin it, that is what it is) and will likely be affected by very little of this CBA bull****.

Defamation is harder to prove when you're a public figure that can issue a press release. The Press knows it, lives it, loves it.

What happen to lets get this wrapped up so we can play.... None of these greedy bastards better F this up.

Drew will retire as a saint. Nuff said

This is likely highly contextual and blown out of proportion, but just in case...

Drew, if you let us down, I will find and stab you. Don't become what you fight against.

To be honest...you have just put into ink what has been going-on in my head for quite some time, now. I'm sure that a lot of people around here could tell you that I have never been an avid fan of either Sean or Drew...but I have been hoping all along that I was wrong and everybody else here is right in falling in love with these two. I mean...I love what they have done but for some reason I just can't trust either of them. Could you trust a guy that kicks an onside-kick to start the 2nd half of the SB...when for the first time in history people actually wondered whether he would or not?

I do think that before it is all over we will all have some answers. Personally...I won't be really angry at either of them if they do decide to move their act west a bit. I'm sure, in their heads, they feel that they've all they can do here and more...and I would love to think that people like Drew and Sean could become satisified...but in reality I think they are just the opposite.

It is entirely possible that they both would like...hell, their ego's need...a new challenge...and all the money that comes with it wouldn't suck for either of them.

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I wont say I'm worried about Bress leaving; or freaking out, or losing sleep. I wanted some of you "Smart" people to explain what Drew was doing.

As far as Sean and Drew leaving to go coach/play at Big D.....

I can give you first hand knowledge about how a REAL, TRUE, competitive coach thinks.

1. He wants to win.

2. He wants to bring a team from nothing into someting.

3. He wants to be challenged.

4. He always is looking for the next challenge.

Sean has taken a team from nothing and won a SuperBowl. Almost made it to the big dance twice, and has a great shot to do it again this year.

Winning the same ole way; believe it or not, can get boring. Those types of Coaches want harder challenges. Think about it... he became the head coach of a team that was is shambles, homeless, HISTORY OF LOSING, and rumors of moving to another city.

How many of you would take a job like that?

So, LB's way of thinking is really not that far off.

Let's look at Dallas for a second.

1. He came from there

2. He just moved back there

3. JJ can throw more money at him than anyone else

4. Dallas hasn't been a contender since Troy Akin

5. Strato likes Texas Blues

6. Romo is not the answer, As much as they want him to be an elete QB, he never will be.

7. Sean and Drew have a pretty strong Bromance. Drew and Sean have a plan. We just don't know it.

Man this lockout has us all going crazy. I'll be glad when it's over.

The free agent suits along with these franchise tag law suits set the ground work for the current negotiations and agreement. When/if the suits settle, the rulings will negate or uphold past and new agreement details. If the agreement comes first, pressure will increase for Drew/Manning and the other plantiffs to drop their suit to allow the CBA to stand. These suits are not just about Drew and the other named players, these rulings will set a precedent for all future players that face the same issue and will shape mgmt/player negotiations going forward. The players feel that being franchise tagged, puts them at a disadvantage. Owners love the tag - they can play games with the money, shuffle a few contracts around and avoid cap troubles until next season. Players hate it - it postpones potential paydays that could easily be affected by injury in the current tagged season. Drew is in the catbird seat. He's not going anywhere. At least I hope not.

Ya'll are all nuts! I'm not buying that Drew and Sean are on their way out. Stop giving me things to worry about! Where's FF's weird cat pics now?!

this is too long for me to read

Obama's Porkulus bill was shorter than that! :p

Not really ... want the pdf?

I'm sorry Ron.

Here's the "Cliff Notes" version.

We have too much time on our hands and nothing worth a crap to talk about during this lock out!

I don't have the room on my hard drive.

Where did the Brees/Payton to Dallas stuff come from? I thought that had been put to rest a while ago? This might be the biggest overreaction thread I've ever seen on this board.

Yeah I'd expect that "over there" not here