Saints resign Scott Shanle

foreverfan · 07-28-2011, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

If he was bad as you say he would've been beaten out for his job by one of the parade of young linebackers by now.

You have to dance with who brung you.

GoShanle#58 · 07-28-2011, 08:18 PM

Saints agree to terms with Shanle, Dunbar; cut Gay | wwltv.com New Orleans

foreverfan · 07-28-2011, 08:21 PM

I think we knew that already...

SAINT_MICHAEL · 07-28-2011, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Or maybe it means the coaches (who have recently won a Super Bowl and fielded a top -10 defense, by the way) know just a tiny bit more about Shanle than you or anybody else on this forum.

The hate this guy gets is mind-boggling. I don't love him by any stretch but I almost hope he keeps his starting job just so I can watch half the people on this board lose their minds.

And I hope the Saints improve as a team every year and win the SB. Part of improving as a team is getting better through the draft and free agency. It's not hate to want your favorite team to improve itself by getting a more talented player at any position.

And yes, I'm sure the coaches know a bit more about Shanle than I do. But despite your condescending statement, believe it or not, they get it wrong sometimes...like trading up to draft Antonio Pittman in 2009.

That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total.

So go ahead and let your mind be boggled by the "hate" you see for Shanle here. I would rather have seen the team go a different direction than to rely on a returning 9 year vet to make an impact.

|Mitch| · 07-28-2011, 08:22 PM

Yep, you're about 4 hours too late with the proof...

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2011, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

And I hope the Saints improve as a team every year and win the SB. Part of improving as a team is getting better through the draft and free agency. It's not hate to want your favorite team to improve itself by getting a more talented player at any position.

And yes, I'm sure the coaches know a bit more about Shanle than I do. But despite your condescending statement, believe it or not, they get it wrong sometimes...like trading up to draft Antonio Pittman in 2009.

That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total.

So go ahead and let your mind be boggled by the "hate" you see for Shanle here. I would rather have seen the team go a different direction than to rely on a returning 9 year vet to make an impact.

Speaking of condescension....

BTW, the Saints had the fourth overall defense last year. Not the 16th.

But hey, since you're such a defensive expert as compared to say, Gregg Williams, I'll take your judgement over his.

biloxi-indian · 07-28-2011, 08:46 PM

@AdamSchefterAdam Schefter

Saints reach agreement with LB Scott Shanle on a two-year, $4 million deal.

IMHO, $2mm too much.

|Mitch| · 07-28-2011, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL

That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total.

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

BTW, the Saints had the fourth overall defense last year. Not the 16th.

But hey, since you're such a defensive expert as compared to say, Gregg Williams, I'll take your judgement over his.

Actually they were 16th in rushing yards allowed per game, just like SAINT_MICHAEL said

Jack Vegas · 07-28-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Actually they were 16th in rushing yards allowed per game, just like SAINT_MICHAEL said

Actually, that's not what he said.....Even if he had said that (which he didnt) being 16th in rushing allowed is not exactly terrible and certainly not a condemnation of one individual player on an 11-man unit. It's pure stupidity to scapegoat Shanle for any shortcomings the Saints defense may have.

NEXTPROBOWLER · 07-28-2011, 08:56 PM

as much as i dont like shanle, he was a backup i wouldnt mind havin him 3-5 games at the most

07-28-2011, 07:32 PM	#41
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Jack Vegas If he was bad as you say he would've been beaten out for his job by one of the parade of young linebackers by now. You have to dance with who brung you.

07-28-2011, 08:18 PM	#42
GoShanle#58 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 8	PROOF ABOUT SHANLE Saints agree to terms with Shanle, Dunbar; cut Gay \| wwltv.com New Orleans
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07-28-2011, 08:22 PM	#44
SAINT_MICHAEL 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 446	Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Or maybe it means the coaches (who have recently won a Super Bowl and fielded a top -10 defense, by the way) know just a tiny bit more about Shanle than you or anybody else on this forum. The hate this guy gets is mind-boggling. I don't love him by any stretch but I almost hope he keeps his starting job just so I can watch half the people on this board lose their minds. And I hope the Saints improve as a team every year and win the SB. Part of improving as a team is getting better through the draft and free agency. It's not hate to want your favorite team to improve itself by getting a more talented player at any position. And yes, I'm sure the coaches know a bit more about Shanle than I do. But despite your condescending statement, believe it or not, they get it wrong sometimes...like trading up to draft Antonio Pittman in 2009. That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total. So go ahead and let your mind be boggled by the "hate" you see for Shanle here. I would rather have seen the team go a different direction than to rely on a returning 9 year vet to make an impact. TheEnigma likes this.
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07-28-2011, 08:43 PM	#46
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL And I hope the Saints improve as a team every year and win the SB. Part of improving as a team is getting better through the draft and free agency. It's not hate to want your favorite team to improve itself by getting a more talented player at any position. And yes, I'm sure the coaches know a bit more about Shanle than I do. But despite your condescending statement, believe it or not, they get it wrong sometimes...like trading up to draft Antonio Pittman in 2009. That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total. So go ahead and let your mind be boggled by the "hate" you see for Shanle here. I would rather have seen the team go a different direction than to rely on a returning 9 year vet to make an impact. Speaking of condescension.... BTW, the Saints had the fourth overall defense last year. Not the 16th. But hey, since you're such a defensive expert as compared to say, Gregg Williams, I'll take your judgement over his.
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07-28-2011, 08:53 PM	#48
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by SAINT_MICHAEL That top 10 defense you are so proud of was ranked 16th in yards allowed per game. 13 teams were worse than the Saints (16 better) at yards per carry allowed. In the Seattle playoff game, they allowed a 6.3 YPC average and 150 yards total. Originally Posted by Jack Vegas BTW, the Saints had the fourth overall defense last year. Not the 16th. But hey, since you're such a defensive expert as compared to say, Gregg Williams, I'll take your judgement over his. Actually they were 16th in rushing yards allowed per game, just like SAINT_MICHAEL said

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Actually they were 16th in rushing yards allowed per game, just like SAINT_MICHAEL said Actually, that's not what he said.....Even if he had said that (which he didnt) being 16th in rushing allowed is not exactly terrible and certainly not a condemnation of one individual player on an 11-man unit. It's pure stupidity to scapegoat Shanle for any shortcomings the Saints defense may have.
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07-28-2011, 08:56 PM	#50
NEXTPROBOWLER 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 269	as much as i dont like shanle, he was a backup i wouldnt mind havin him 3-5 games at the most

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