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Projected 53 man Roster players (those that make the cut) with starters listed bold; Injured players are italicized; (r) Rookie
QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel FB Korey Hall RB Mark Ingram(r), Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Joique Bell WR Marques Colston, Robert Meachem FL Lance Moore, Devery Henderson, Courtney Roby LT Jermon Bushrod LG Carl Nicks, Roger Allen C Olin Kreutz, Matt Tennant RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief/Charles Brown TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Tyler Lorenzen(r) LDE Alex Brown, Cam Jordan(r), Junior Galette DT Sedrick Ellis, Mitch King(r) NT Shaun Rogers/Aubrayo Franklin RDE Will Smith, Jeff Charleston WLB Scott Shanle, Jonathan Casillas, Nate Bussey MLB Jonathan Vilma, Jo-Lonn Dunbar SLB Will Herring, Clint Ingram, Martez Wilson(r) LCB Jabari Greer, Leigh Torrence, Johnny Patrick(r) SS Roman Harper, Jonathon Amaya, Pierson Prioleau FS Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Reis RCB Tracy Porter, Patrick Robinson PK Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher Injured Reserve/PUP Chris Ivory, Greg Romeus(r), Joseph Morgan(r) - Injuries playing a big role in who makes this team - Can Arrington pull a rabbit out of his?!? - Linebacker is the big mystery on defense - Darren Sharper to resign?!? Does he still have plenty in the tank?!? - Mitch King to outlast Tom Johnson for the backup to Sedrick Ellis - Is Matt Tennant and Charlie Brown our new Bushrod and Strief? Where's the depth? - Back to injuries, Late in the season, players that may be on the PUP list will need to come off that list and cuts will be made then... - This season will be a game of who's left standing... |
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I (surprisingly) disagree with you on this one. The injury doesn't seem to be that serious, and both SP and GW have been high on TJ and how he has competed and performed. I firmly believe that TJ is more in the way of what GW wants out of a DT, especially from a 3-tech. I think that King might be undersized for that position in the NFL - even though he has looked good against the backups - and, therefore, it would be intriguing to see him try out as DE or, even better, as a LB like he did at times in College... or was it high school?! |
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But injuries are going to dictate who makes this team more so than in any other year... |
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TJ will be healthy come season start... I hope! http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m1213.gif Furthermore, the Saints have invested significantly more money in him, so the FO has a "hidden" motivation to see him start. |
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I think he could also be a DE in some packages. We may not keep a lot of LB's since the majority of ours are simply journeymen anyway. We may opt to keep an extra DE/DT over a 6th/7th LB. Dunbar/Herring/Ingram can play all 3 spots. |
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Dont count out Swanson Miller
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Johnson seems like a solid defensive tackle... After tonight, I'm thinking five (5) defensive ends and five (5) defensive tackles... Martez Wilson, should he mature could be your inside linebacker with Vilma's coverage skills put outside at SLB... Shanle and Casillas can't seem to establish whose the starter... |
If there was any doubt Joique Bell just sewed up his roster spot with that radio interview he just gave...
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I like Martez to stay outside. Dunbar looks like a solid back-up to Vilma and Wilson blitzing off the edge looks lethal. It looks like its starting to click for him. We're gonna cut some good players. |
Projected 53 man Roster players (those that make the cut) with starters listed bold; Injured players are italicized; (r) Rookie
QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel FB Korey Hall RB Mark Ingram(r), Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Joique Bell WR Marques Colston, Robert Meachem FL Lance Moore, Devery Henderson, Courtney Roby LT Jermon Bushrod LG Carl Nicks, Roger Allen C Olin Kreutz, Matt Tennant RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief/Charles Brown TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Tyler Lorenzen(r) LDE Alex Brown, Cam Jordan(r), Junior Galette DT Sedrick Ellis, Tom Johnson(r), Mitch King(r) NT Shaun Rogers/Aubrayo Franklin RDE Will Smith, Jeff Charleston WLB Scott Shanle, Jonathan Casillas, Nate Bussey(r) MLB Jonathan Vilma, Martez Wilson(r) SLB Will Herring, Jo-Lonn Dunbar LCB Jabari Greer, Leigh Torrence, Johnny Patrick(r) SS Roman Harper, Jonathon Amaya, Pierson Prioleau FS Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Reis RCB Tracy Porter, Patrick Robinson PK Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher Injured Reserve/PUP Chris Ivory, Greg Romeus(r), Joseph Morgan(r) - Injuries playing a big role in who makes this team - Linebacker is the big mystery on defense - Darren Sharper to resign?!? Does he still have plenty in the tank?!? |
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Arrington is the most frustrating of the cuts; if he'd bring the effort every play and toughen up...damn |
I would put Miller ahead of King..close one though
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so we'll probably have both... |
I hope J.P..Miller looked good out there...he is big and fast
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I thought Miller looked slow off the snap. He has good accelleration, but not much burst off the line. At least thats the way it looked to me.
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Johnson is taller than Ellis and King is about as tall, while Ellis is beefier than both of them, but that can fixed without genetic manipulation. |
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If it is by design, then it would be a stunt...
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Projected 53 man Roster players (those that make the cut) with starters listed bold; Injured players are italicized; (r) Rookie
QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel FB Korey Hall RB Mark Ingram(r), Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Joique Bell WR Marques Colston, Robert Meachem FL Lance Moore, Devery Henderson, Courtney Roby LT Jermon Bushrod, Jordan Black LG Carl Nicks C Olin Kreutz, Matt Tennant RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief, Charles Brown TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas, Tyler Lorenzen(r) LDE Cam Jordan(r), Junior Galette DT Sedrick Ellis, Tom Johnson, Mitch King(r) NT Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo Franklin RDE Will Smith, Jeff Charleston, Turk McBride WLB Scott Shanle, Jonathan Casillas, Nate Bussey MLB Jonathan Vilma, Jo-Lonn Dunbar SLB Will Herring, Martez Wilson(r) LCB Jabari Greer, Leigh Torrence, Johnny Patrick(r) SS Roman Harper, Jonathon Amaya, Pierson Prioleau FS Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Reis RCB Tracy Porter, Patrick Robinson PK Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher Injured Reserve/PUP Chris Ivory, Greg Romeus(r), Joseph Morgan(r) |
Ladies & Gentlemen, your 2011 New Orleans Saints
...for now... 53 man Roster players with starters listed bold; injured players are italicized; (r) denotes Rookie QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel FB Korey Hall, Jed Collins(r) RB Mark Ingram(r), Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Joique Bell WR Marques Colston, Devery Henderson, Adrian Arrington TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas FL Lance Moore, Robert Meachem, Courtney Roby LT Jermon Bushrod, Charles Brown LG Carl Nicks, Brian de la Puente C Olin Kreutz, Matt Tennant RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief LDE Cam Jordan(r), Jeff Charleston DT Sedrick Ellis, Tom Johnson(r), Mitch King(r) NT Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo Franklin RDE Will Smith*, Junior Galette, Turk McBride WLB Scott Shanle, Jonathan Casillas, Ramon Humber MLB Jonathan Vilma, Jo-Lonn Dunbar SLB Will Herring, Martez Wilson(r) LCB Jabari Greer, Leigh Torrence, Johnny Patrick(r) SS Roman Harper, Jonathon Amaya FS Malcolm Jenkins, Isa Abdul Quddus RCB Tracy Porter, Patrick Robinson PK John Kasay, Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher PUP Chris Ivory PUP/Non Football Greg Romeus Injured Reserve Alex Barron, Fabian Washington, Patrick Cobbs, Paul Oliver, Joseph Morgan(r) *Suspended, does not count against roster max of 53 A few surprises: - Adrian Arrington, would you buy my lottery ticket? - Only two (2) Tight Ends; wow, really? - Conversely, kept two (2) Fullbacks; commitment to running game? - Ramon Humber definitely has that special teams edge; good for him. - Saints' small school love goes out to Fordham's Isa Abdul Quddus - So when Hartley gets healthy, then Ivory, is there a kickoff for kicker? - And who goes when Smith gets out the penalty box? - Got to have a de la Puente shirt at the B&G Store on Vets, right? - the de la Puente shirt can go with my Guido Merkins old school jersey... - 2012 Draft Priorities: Strong Safety, Offensive Tackle, oh yea, Linebacker :bng: "I want to be in that number..." |
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The occasional blitz-sacks or strips are great; but a strong safety needs to be able to provide the basic required skills - solid coverage and enforcement hitting... All positions should be looked at for improvement... Now, I knew putting it first would spark debate; I like a healthy discussion... Truthfully, by far Offensive Tackle and Outside Linebacker are most in need of upgrade - especially with an injury at either position creating a precipitous situation for the team; a team that is very capable of another championship... I've seen enough of Harper's game to know that we could do better and that he was seriously overpaid in guranteed money the past offseason... Now, I've been very critical of Will Smith in the past and he's finally elevated his game to be commensurate to his contract; as a Saint fan, I expect Harper to do the same or find his immediate replacement... |
This team isnt as deep as a lot think..the O- Line and Safety are concerns..as far as depth...I would bring in Meriweather for depth..as soon as possible..JMO
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As far as "priority" goes, replacing a pro-bowl safety in the 1st year of a 4 year contract is not exactly a priority.
These are the positions that I'd consider a priority... DT - Yes (Rogers and Franklin are free agents next year) WLB - Yes (but hopefully Casillas is the answer) SLB - Yes (but hopefully Wilson is the answer) LT - Yes RT - Yes PK - Yes DE - Maybe (Will Smith isn't getting any younger) But... SS - No FS - No CB - No MLB - No QB - No WR - No OC - No OG - No TE - No FB - No P - Hell No |
As I said Offensive Tackle and Linebacker are the two biggest "needs" on this team...
While Bushrod and Streif look to be capable professional football players - their play or positions could use improvement... I think all the Linebacker positions should be closely scrutinized; with the exception of Dunbar, who's not a full-time player, we don't have anyone in the corps whose hits make opposing teams "hear the footsteps" On the issue of Defensive End and Will Smith's age, I'd agree; we don't know that Cam Jordan can produce nor what we have in Greg Romeus, but I like the picks made... And I don't buy into Loomis Cool-aid; personnel mistakes have been made and I'm not comfortable with Harper's past coverage play for another four years; that's why Strong Safety as all positions should be scouted... |
You should buy into the Loomis Cool-aid. 3 playoff appearances, a Superbowl ring, and a NFL executive of the Year award. Clearly he's doing something right. Just because our strong safeties strong suit isn't in coverage, doesn't make Loomis an idiot(I think you've said that before if I remember correctly). If GM's had to hang their hat on the SS being excellent coverage guys, the majority of them would be out of a job.
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We're getting ready for the 2012 draft already? Gotta go with a tackle in the second round...no doubt.
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He covers as well as most NFL SS's. |
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that isn't to say that Miller wasn't slow - only God, GW, the MLB, & the defenders on the field knew the call... |
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We need to get Halo to get us onsite Stuttering John or Baba Booey :D |
Cool thing is Miller made the PS..the coaches saw something in him..so did i..
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I'm surprised the Saints haven't signed or traded for another Tight End...yet
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We all saw that. Looks like the coaches saw something more in Johnson and King, so did I. |
Ladies & Gentlemen, your 2011 New Orleans Saints
...for now...with Practice Squad Addition 53 man Roster players with starters listed bold; injured players are italicized; (r) denotes Rookie QB Drew Brees, Chase Daniel FB Korey Hall, Jed Collins(r) RB Mark Ingram(r), Pierre Thomas, Darren Sproles, Joique Bell WR Marques Colston, Devery Henderson, Adrian Arrington TE Jimmy Graham, David Thomas FL Lance Moore, Robert Meachem, Courtney Roby LT Jermon Bushrod, Charles Brown LG Carl Nicks, Brian de la Puente C Olin Kreutz, Matt Tennant RG Jahri Evans RT Zach Strief LDE Cam Jordan(r), Jeff Charleston DT Sedrick Ellis, Tom Johnson(r), Mitch King(r) NT Shaun Rogers, Aubrayo Franklin RDE Will Smith*, Junior Galette, Turk McBride WLB Scott Shanle, Jonathan Casillas, Ramon Humber MLB Jonathan Vilma, Jo-Lonn Dunbar SLB Will Herring, Martez Wilson(r) LCB Jabari Greer, Leigh Torrence, Johnny Patrick(r) SS Roman Harper, Jonathon Amaya FS Malcolm Jenkins, Isa Abdul Quddus RCB Tracy Porter, Patrick Robinson PK John Kasay, Garrett Hartley P Thomas Morstead LS Justin Drescher PUP Chris Ivory PUP/Non Football Greg Romeus Injured Reserve Alex Barron, Fabian Washington, Patrick Cobbs, Paul Oliver, Joseph Morgan(r) *Suspended, does not count against roster max of 53 Saints Practice Squad: LB Nate Bussey QB Sean Canfield TE Michael Higgins CB Terrail Lambert DT Swanson Miller LS Kyle Nelson C Cecil Newton WR Andy Tanner |
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