Brees tied with Vick. O RLY?

Beastmode · 08-04-2011, 10:49 PM

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The Dude · 08-04-2011, 10:53 PM

Its fantasy. Has no bearing on how much better or worse of a QB Brees is than Vick.

WestBankbOrn · 08-04-2011, 10:54 PM

as they say on ESPN, C'mon maaaan.

Beastmode · 08-04-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Its fantasy. Has no bearing on how much better or worse of a QB Brees is than Vick.

So your saying it fails to consider trivial stuff like winning a SB and being in a Federal prison. Explain?

The Dude · 08-04-2011, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

So your saying it fails to consider trivial stuff like winning a SB and being in a Federal prison. Explain?

lol and injury proneness.

NinthWardJay · 08-05-2011, 01:51 AM

lmao you cant take this as a literal article in terms of fantasy quarterbacks yes i can see Vick on par or even above par with all of the top quarterbacks. In fantasy football Vick is given a great edge due to his ability to run with the football. He's like a Quarterback+Running Back in Fantasy Football.

Beastmode · 08-05-2011, 08:45 AM

I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably.

Maverick2299 · 08-05-2011, 09:33 AM

It goes by how many points they got last year and how many projected this year. I can see Vick being higher due to rushing and passing.

Memnoch_TP · 08-05-2011, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably.

Last year Mike Vick scored more fantasy points than any other QB, and he did it in only 12 games. So even if you have to fill in 4 games with a Matt Cassel or a Jay Cutler, you are still head and shoulders above everyone else. Even the guy starting Aaron Rogers all season.

So, no, if they put up mad stats, you draft them and then dance with glee. A little preparation counters the negatives.

pinch · 08-05-2011, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably.

Beastmode you are correct. But in fantasy football players are sometimes judged by potential. Sure Mike Vick has only played a complete season once in his career, but the trade-off is that if he doesn't get injured he can lead your team to a championship.

Vick didn't lead all QB in scoring last year, because that honor went to Tom Brady with Aaron Rodgers finishing a close second. Vick was 4th behind Brady, Rodgers, & Manning. So you see that injuries are in fact a concern in fantasy and shouldn't be ignored.

However, for those owners who draft on potential, Vick did dominate in the all-important statistic "Fantasy Points Per Game". Vick scored 29.1 fantasy points per game (he only played 12 games) while the closest player to that was Aaron Rodgers with 23.9 fantasy points per game. This means that Vick was almost a full TD per-game better than all other fantasy quarterbacks using FPPG. That's huge but again, its a calculate risk.

I created a website where you can create fantasy football cheat sheets using drag and drop. On my quarterback rankings page you can see my rankings and also view how each QB performed using the TFP (Total Fantasy Points) and the FPPG statistic. Hope this helps someone.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Originally Posted by The Dude Its fantasy. Has no bearing on how much better or worse of a QB Brees is than Vick. So your saying it fails to consider trivial stuff like winning a SB and being in a Federal prison. Explain? ALLSAINTS66 likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Originally Posted by Beastmode So your saying it fails to consider trivial stuff like winning a SB and being in a Federal prison. Explain? lol and injury proneness.
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NinthWardJay Captain Swag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Orleans/Atlanta Posts: 189	lmao you cant take this as a literal article in terms of fantasy quarterbacks yes i can see Vick on par or even above par with all of the top quarterbacks. In fantasy football Vick is given a great edge due to his ability to run with the football. He's like a Quarterback+Running Back in Fantasy Football.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably.
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Maverick2299 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: VA Posts: 368	It goes by how many points they got last year and how many projected this year. I can see Vick being higher due to rushing and passing.

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Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Originally Posted by Beastmode I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably. Last year Mike Vick scored more fantasy points than any other QB, and he did it in only 12 games. So even if you have to fill in 4 games with a Matt Cassel or a Jay Cutler, you are still head and shoulders above everyone else. Even the guy starting Aaron Rogers all season. So, no, if they put up mad stats, you draft them and then dance with glee. A little preparation counters the negatives.

08-05-2011, 10:38 AM	#10
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	Vick's Value in Fantasy Football Originally Posted by Beastmode I've never played FF. I know it's stat driven of course but I also thought it had other factors in there as far as FF draft rankings mainly injuries/missed games. If a player puts up mad stats but has missed significant playing time it would seem their ranking would drop considerably. Beastmode you are correct. But in fantasy football players are sometimes judged by potential. Sure Mike Vick has only played a complete season once in his career, but the trade-off is that if he doesn't get injured he can lead your team to a championship. Vick didn't lead all QB in scoring last year, because that honor went to Tom Brady with Aaron Rodgers finishing a close second. Vick was 4th behind Brady, Rodgers, & Manning. So you see that injuries are in fact a concern in fantasy and shouldn't be ignored. However, for those owners who draft on potential, Vick did dominate in the all-important statistic "Fantasy Points Per Game". Vick scored 29.1 fantasy points per game (he only played 12 games) while the closest player to that was Aaron Rodgers with 23.9 fantasy points per game. This means that Vick was almost a full TD per-game better than all other fantasy quarterbacks using FPPG. That's huge but again, its a calculate risk. I created a website where you can create fantasy football cheat sheets using drag and drop. On my quarterback rankings page you can see my rankings and also view how each QB performed using the TFP (Total Fantasy Points) and the FPPG statistic. Hope this helps someone. 2011 NFL Quarterback Rankings Beastmode likes this.