Why are we aquiring so many run stuffers this offseason?

jeanpierre · 08-07-2011, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Here's the thing about your coach, he probably watch that Marshawn run about 300 trillion times. Then, he let GW watch it with him another 300 trillion. On defense Vilma took a lot of punishment last season as teams just ran the ball down our throats with timely passin gin between. A motivated run stuffing team will free up our LBS more to make those plays we had gotten use to in 09. Give the offense more short fields. I like Martez Wilson this season. Malcom Jenkins will also have a monster. and hopefully the saints stay healthy at the corner and we make a deep run.

Three most important positions on defense: Nose Tackle, Mike Backer, Free Safety...you've got to control the middle of the field...

papz · 08-07-2011, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We have been pretty decent against the run, but we really have not been great at rushing the qbs very well. I would figure we would build to get better in that department. With the drafting of Jones The Falcons are building to be a pass first team, and I would figure we would try and get after him a little bit. Rodgers, Franklin, and everyone else we aquired are great at stuffing the run, but not really known for being pass rushers. Do you guys worry about this?

Build a strong team up the middle and everything else will fall into place. Mediocre pass rushers then become solid rushers. Solid rushers then becomes good rushers. Good rushers becomes excellent rushers.

I'm perfectly fine with us not having the name rushers. Williams likes to bring pressure from every position, anytime, and everywhere on the field. It's going to be and has been a collective team effort since he's been here. This is the strongest we've been up the middle in a very long time... I expect our sacks numbers to increase even w/o that star guy.

And the way Junior is being talked this offseason...

Euphoria · 08-07-2011, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We have been pretty decent against the run, but we really have not been great at rushing the qbs very well. I would figure we would build to get better in that department. With the drafting of Jones The Falcons are building to be a pass first team, and I would figure we would try and get after him a little bit. Rodgers, Franklin, and everyone else we aquired are great at stuffing the run, but not really known for being pass rushers. Do you guys worry about this?

DECENT!?!?!

I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers.

You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running.

We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP.

spkb25 · 08-07-2011, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

DECENT!?!?!

I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers.

You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running.

We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP.

Euph I couldn't agree more. I remember last year that the Falcons game plan seemed to be long sustained, grind it out, drives against us. It was aimed, just like you pointed out, to keep the ball out of Drew's hands. If we can run the ball and stop the run, look out man.

Seer1 · 08-07-2011, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

DECENT!?!?!

I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers.

You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running.

We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP.

Two on dat! I was trying to remember the last time we were able to stop a third and one. Having a bit of trouble doing that. Sixteenth in the league against the run ain't very good. Now we just gots to hope the linebacker corps gets their poop in a group.

RockyMountainSaint · 08-07-2011, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP.

On defense?

Jenkins, Greer and Robinson stand out to me EVERY DAY!

The Dude · 08-07-2011, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

DECENT!?!?!

I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers.

You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running.

We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP.

This is true, but we also have been able to stop the run when it counts against heavy run first teams. AP, Turner, D Will, and others have all been pretty much held in check by us for the most part these past couple of years. Problem is we did tend to give up the big run play at the most inopportune moments.

CheramieIII · 08-07-2011, 08:03 AM

We're making up for all the years we never had 1 much less 3 or 4. This defense will be GDub's best ever and will take us to the Superbowl again. Sexual Intercourse those Eagles.

Saint_LB · 08-07-2011, 08:14 AM

Why are we aquiring so many run stuffers this offseason?

My guess...

They are trying to defend the run better?

neugey · 08-07-2011, 08:33 AM

IMO the objective is to make the other team mostly give up on the run and become mostly one-dimensional with the pass. Once this happens, GW can put in his aggressive blitzing or bizarre coverage schemes to rattle the opposition and try to force an incompletion or a takeaway.

08-07-2011, 07:06 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Here's the thing about your coach, he probably watch that Marshawn run about 300 trillion times. Then, he let GW watch it with him another 300 trillion. On defense Vilma took a lot of punishment last season as teams just ran the ball down our throats with timely passin gin between. A motivated run stuffing team will free up our LBS more to make those plays we had gotten use to in 09. Give the offense more short fields. I like Martez Wilson this season. Malcom Jenkins will also have a monster. and hopefully the saints stay healthy at the corner and we make a deep run. Three most important positions on defense: Nose Tackle, Mike Backer, Free Safety...you've got to control the middle of the field...

08-07-2011, 07:13 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,802	Originally Posted by The Dude We have been pretty decent against the run, but we really have not been great at rushing the qbs very well. I would figure we would build to get better in that department. With the drafting of Jones The Falcons are building to be a pass first team, and I would figure we would try and get after him a little bit. Rodgers, Franklin, and everyone else we aquired are great at stuffing the run, but not really known for being pass rushers. Do you guys worry about this? Build a strong team up the middle and everything else will fall into place. Mediocre pass rushers then become solid rushers. Solid rushers then becomes good rushers. Good rushers becomes excellent rushers. I'm perfectly fine with us not having the name rushers. Williams likes to bring pressure from every position, anytime, and everywhere on the field. It's going to be and has been a collective team effort since he's been here. This is the strongest we've been up the middle in a very long time... I expect our sacks numbers to increase even w/o that star guy. And the way Junior is being talked this offseason...
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

08-07-2011, 07:55 AM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by The Dude We have been pretty decent against the run, but we really have not been great at rushing the qbs very well. I would figure we would build to get better in that department. With the drafting of Jones The Falcons are building to be a pass first team, and I would figure we would try and get after him a little bit. Rodgers, Franklin, and everyone else we aquired are great at stuffing the run, but not really known for being pass rushers. Do you guys worry about this? DECENT!?!?! I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers. You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running. We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP. darstep likes this.
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08-07-2011, 08:07 AM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,147	Originally Posted by Euphoria DECENT!?!?! I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers. You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running. We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP. Euph I couldn't agree more. I remember last year that the Falcons game plan seemed to be long sustained, grind it out, drives against us. It was aimed, just like you pointed out, to keep the ball out of Drew's hands. If we can run the ball and stop the run, look out man.

08-07-2011, 08:22 AM	#5
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Originally Posted by Euphoria DECENT!?!?! I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers. You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running. We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP. Two on dat! I was trying to remember the last time we were able to stop a third and one. Having a bit of trouble doing that. Sixteenth in the league against the run ain't very good. Now we just gots to hope the linebacker corps gets their poop in a group.

08-07-2011, 10:33 AM	#6
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by Euphoria BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP. On defense? Jenkins, Greer and Robinson stand out to me EVERY DAY!

08-07-2011, 11:09 AM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,076	Originally Posted by Euphoria DECENT!?!?! I don't know what team you have been watching but the one area we must improve is being able to stop the run. When a team lines up late in the game and instead of passing they line up to run!?!?! THey have a better chance at running the ball on us to beat us. We get lucky if we do stop the run and we lose some more than most of the run battles. As you know from the play offs we didn't stop the run when it counted so they are pissed. So welcome the big run stuffers. You won't have to sit with fingers crossed when a team tries to show us they are running. We have an offense that can put up 30 plus points but we have got to stop teams that their plan is to keep the ball out of Brees hands by running the ball on us. So stop the run force them to throw into our secondary, which is very oppitunistic and good. It'll create turn overs and if anyone is going to run the ball in the game to control the clock... I rather it be us. Lure them into having to stop the run and then let Brees drop back on them and drop a deep one to Mechem... BY THE WAY WHO IS HAVING A DOMINATING CAMP. This is true, but we also have been able to stop the run when it counts against heavy run first teams. AP, Turner, D Will, and others have all been pretty much held in check by us for the most part these past couple of years. Problem is we did tend to give up the big run play at the most inopportune moments.
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08-07-2011, 08:03 AM	#8
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	We're making up for all the years we never had 1 much less 3 or 4. This defense will be GDub's best ever and will take us to the Superbowl again. Sexual Intercourse those Eagles.

08-07-2011, 08:14 AM	#9
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Why are we aquiring so many run stuffers this offseason? My guess... They are trying to defend the run better? spkb25 and foreverfan like this.
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08-07-2011, 08:33 AM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,886 Blog Entries: 13	IMO the objective is to make the other team mostly give up on the run and become mostly one-dimensional with the pass. Once this happens, GW can put in his aggressive blitzing or bizarre coverage schemes to rattle the opposition and try to force an incompletion or a takeaway.

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