Gut reaction from HOU game

frankeefrank · 08-20-2011, 11:57 PM

Just got done watching and here are a few thoughts.
Offense:
The Texans employed what I thought was a normal approach to the game. Meaning they zone blitzed, edge blitzed, employed aggresive man coverage, and used stunts and twists on the DL. Maybe it's because they were playig at home, but it looked as if were trying to make more of a statement than the Saints clearly were.

That having been said. I liked what the first unit did (for the most part). They ran the ball well. Brees was all right. If you watch the tape again, most of his incompletions were on the screen passes. 2 of the 7, were on swing passes to Sproles. Those can be fixed. Screens usually benefit when run in the right situations. Play calling. The passes to Sproles are fixable. Practice.
We moved the ball with both the number ones and twos.

Now the bad.
I thought the line struggled agaisnt SF. They were horrible tonight. It seems as if Bushrod hasn't improved his lower body strength at all since taking over for Jammal Brown. He whiffed on the defender on the Brees fumble. Check the tape. If Bushrod evens holds him up one 1/2 second. Drew tucks the ball and we kick a field goal. (On Daniels later fumble, Charles Brown basically cut himelf from the team. He's dog poop. He literally didn't move.)
The O-line needs to drastically improve if we are going to make a run this year. I think Streif played well. But they still scare me a little.
Lance and Meachem looked good to go.
If healthy, Pierre and Ingram will be an awesome 1-2 punch.

Defense:
The guys looked horrible and un-inspired. I know I am stating the obvious.
There were way too many missed tackles. I guess, you can chalk that up to the lockout and missed ota's and less contact... but, that was also a problem last year. Can it be fixed? I hope so.
In Williams' defense, the Saints were very vanilla. I mean, crystal clear vanilla. 4 down lineman, LB's back, 8-10 yard cushion by the CB's, deep zone.
It was like Williams didn't even want to show the Texans the tiniest wrinkle in film.
I would like to know if the poor run defense is chronic or not.

My gut reaction: We play these guys early int he regular season. Payton and Williams didn't want to show the Texans a thing. But, the team played poorly. Now I know the Texans "get paid too," and the Saints need to improve, but seeing that is not a bad thing. Should be a good week of practice in CA.
In fact, poor play heading into the most important week of training camp...
team isolated, locked away in CA...
no distractions...
the conspiracy theorist in me says this is what Payton had planned all along.

hagan714 · 08-21-2011, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

I thought the line struggled agaisnt SF. They were horrible tonight. It seems as if Bushrod hasn't improved his lower body strength at all since taking over for Jammal Brown. He whiffed on the defender on the Brees fumble. Check the tape. If Bushrod evens holds him up one 1/2 second. Drew tucks the ball and we kick a field goal. (On Daniels later fumble, Charles Brown basically cut himelf from the team. He's dog poop. He literally didn't move.)
The O-line needs to drastically improve if we are going to make a run this year. I think Streif played well. But they still scare me a little.

do i need to get the OT drum out again? Oh that's right i never put away.

2012 nfl draft- names to watch for
Bobby Massie*, OT, Ole Miss
Tanner Hawkinson*, OT, Kansas
Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU

Crusader · 08-21-2011, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

On Daniels later fumble, Charles Brown basically cut himelf from the team. He's dog poop. He literally didn't move.)

Its quite obvious there was some sort of problem with the snapcount on that play and thats why Brown didn't move. Hell even Chase looked surprised when he got the ball.

NOS2SB · 08-21-2011, 06:52 AM

How about on Drew's fumble when Graham didn't even try to recover the ball. Looked as if he was scared to go after it and ran away. That pissed me off.

papz · 08-21-2011, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by frankeefrank

My gut reaction: We play these guys early int he regular season. Payton and Williams didn't want to show the Texans a thing.

That's all you had to write really. The first 3 or 4 screen plays and 3 dive plays up the middle said it all. It was boring and I fell asleep in the second quarter. The only thing I got from the game was that if we wanted to pound the ball up the middle 50 times behind Evans, Nick, and Kruetz... we could. Not saying the Texans are bad, I think they'll do quite well this season... but our vanilla offense/defense made them look way better than they really are.

SaintFanQ · 08-21-2011, 06:02 PM

When all said and done this is only a pre-season game! These games are going to have mistakes, thats what they are for. You just know the coaches will check every inch of film and go through it with the players. We have some of the best coaching staff in the NFL and I am sure they will have everyone ready for the first game of the regular season.

)

GEAUX SAINTS!!!!

homerj07 · 08-21-2011, 08:13 PM

Pray that these guys know what they are doing!!

08-20-2011, 11:57 PM	#1
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	Gut reaction from HOU game Just got done watching and here are a few thoughts. Offense: The Texans employed what I thought was a normal approach to the game. Meaning they zone blitzed, edge blitzed, employed aggresive man coverage, and used stunts and twists on the DL. Maybe it's because they were playig at home, but it looked as if were trying to make more of a statement than the Saints clearly were. That having been said. I liked what the first unit did (for the most part). They ran the ball well. Brees was all right. If you watch the tape again, most of his incompletions were on the screen passes. 2 of the 7, were on swing passes to Sproles. Those can be fixed. Screens usually benefit when run in the right situations. Play calling. The passes to Sproles are fixable. Practice. We moved the ball with both the number ones and twos. Now the bad. I thought the line struggled agaisnt SF. They were horrible tonight. It seems as if Bushrod hasn't improved his lower body strength at all since taking over for Jammal Brown. He whiffed on the defender on the Brees fumble. Check the tape. If Bushrod evens holds him up one 1/2 second. Drew tucks the ball and we kick a field goal. (On Daniels later fumble, Charles Brown basically cut himelf from the team. He's dog poop. He literally didn't move.) The O-line needs to drastically improve if we are going to make a run this year. I think Streif played well. But they still scare me a little. Lance and Meachem looked good to go. If healthy, Pierre and Ingram will be an awesome 1-2 punch. Defense: The guys looked horrible and un-inspired. I know I am stating the obvious. There were way too many missed tackles. I guess, you can chalk that up to the lockout and missed ota's and less contact... but, that was also a problem last year. Can it be fixed? I hope so. In Williams' defense, the Saints were very vanilla. I mean, crystal clear vanilla. 4 down lineman, LB's back, 8-10 yard cushion by the CB's, deep zone. It was like Williams didn't even want to show the Texans the tiniest wrinkle in film. I would like to know if the poor run defense is chronic or not. My gut reaction: We play these guys early int he regular season. Payton and Williams didn't want to show the Texans a thing. But, the team played poorly. Now I know the Texans "get paid too," and the Saints need to improve, but seeing that is not a bad thing. Should be a good week of practice in CA. In fact, poor play heading into the most important week of training camp... team isolated, locked away in CA... no distractions... the conspiracy theorist in me says this is what Payton had planned all along. saintfan, hagan714 and jcp026 like this.
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08-21-2011, 03:49 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by frankeefrank I thought the line struggled agaisnt SF. They were horrible tonight. It seems as if Bushrod hasn't improved his lower body strength at all since taking over for Jammal Brown. He whiffed on the defender on the Brees fumble. Check the tape. If Bushrod evens holds him up one 1/2 second. Drew tucks the ball and we kick a field goal. (On Daniels later fumble, Charles Brown basically cut himelf from the team. He's dog poop. He literally didn't move.) The O-line needs to drastically improve if we are going to make a run this year. I think Streif played well. But they still scare me a little. do i need to get the OT drum out again? Oh that's right i never put away. 2012 nfl draft- names to watch for *Bobby Massie, OT, Ole Miss Tanner Hawkinson, OT, Kansas* Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU jcp026 likes this.

08-21-2011, 05:24 AM	#3
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Originally Posted by frankeefrank On Daniels later fumble, Charles Brown basically cut himelf from the team. He's dog poop. He literally didn't move.) Its quite obvious there was some sort of problem with the snapcount on that play and thats why Brown didn't move. Hell even Chase looked surprised when he got the ball.

08-21-2011, 08:49 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Originally Posted by frankeefrank My gut reaction: We play these guys early int he regular season. Payton and Williams didn't want to show the Texans a thing. That's all you had to write really. The first 3 or 4 screen plays and 3 dive plays up the middle said it all. It was boring and I fell asleep in the second quarter. The only thing I got from the game was that if we wanted to pound the ball up the middle 50 times behind Evans, Nick, and Kruetz... we could. Not saying the Texans are bad, I think they'll do quite well this season... but our vanilla offense/defense made them look way better than they really are.

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