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While with the Admirals, Delhomme served as backup to Kurt Warner and completed just 15 of 47 passes for 247 yards.

A year later, Delhomme played a much bigger role as he led the Galaxy to World Bowl glory, forming one half of Frankfurt\'s \'double-headed quarterback monster\' alongside Pat Barnes.

http://www.nfleurope.com/news/2003/07212003_lede.html

Still can\'t answer the question eh 08? ;)

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Stats aside, Jake just has the \"John Elway\" type of quality of love for the game. That has helped him more than anything this year, I think.

Being good or great doesn\'t mean that much as a Qb. What matters is your surrounding players and your luck. Everyone seems to recognize Dilfer as a good QB, but not great, and he won a superbowl. Then you can take a Qb that most recognize as great, such as Elway, and even he was susceptible to having 5-11 seasons.

NFL football, being the ultimate team game, naturally keeps any one player from making or breaking a team\'s season. But Jake is taking full advantage of what he\'s been dealt this year and he should be commended for that.

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ScottyRo --

Jake has done well in the role he is asked to play. Has he done incredible things that is directly responsible for the Panther\'s success? I say he hasn\'t. I think he has done a good job of managing the offense, but, he\'s no where close to being an elite QB.

The truth of the matter is, John Fox has put together a team that doesn\'t have to rely on the QB that much. A strong offensive and defensive line, along with, a great running game and special teams, is the blue print for success in Carolina.

Now, Jake, to his credit, has made some plays when he had to.

Bottom line is that the Carolina\'s record is not an indication of how good, or bad, Jake Delhomme is.

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;) .....roflmao

Brooks best game in the 2003 season ???

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Billy , just out of curiousity what qualifies elite ???

Top 10 or so examples if you could .....

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Jake failed to impress? Hhmm. So did the guy he backed up... I believe his name is Kurt Warner. He\'s not very good either huh? What\'s he got? Two MVPs, two Super Bowl appearances, a couple of records for yards, TDs, efficiency, etc... So why did it take Warner so long? Why didn\'t Atlanta see Favre\'s potential?

I\'m not sure what your point is Saintfan. What you\'re assuming is that Delhomme didn\'t play b/c he never impressed anyone in the NFL. How do you know that? I\'ve shown you quotes from a GM and Head Coach that say that he is a franchise player or could start a lot of places in the league. Show me ONE quote that says he isn\'t impressive. Maybe other scouts didn\'t pay much attention to an undrafted free agent out of USL until he had been around for a few years. Do you know that\'s NOT the case?

I don\'t know if you\'re trying to say that Jake was not good or didn\'t have potential b/c the Saints, and no other team, gave him the chance prior to this year, but if that is your argument it\'s not a very good one. Then that same logic applies to the Kurt Warners of the world, and I don\'t think you want to go there. The opposite is true too - see Ryan Leaf. Bottom line - Haslett f-ed up the Delhomme situation. Why is that so hard to admit? Why is it hard to say that Delhomme has progressed more rapidly than Brooks?

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Whodat, I am saying nothing of the kind, and if you\'d read the posts rather than react you\'d see that. You\'re blind to the FACT that I\'m saying there\'s NOTHING wrong with Jake because you want to be. 08 has got you wrapped buddy.

When Jake started for the Saints and beat the Dallas Cowboys a few years ago I was upset that he didn\'t get a chance to start for \'em. I didn\'t understand it. There simply MUST be a reason the Saints kept cutting him and at the same time nobody else scooped him up, as is the case when players with known ability get cut for whatever the reason. 08\'s logic is skewed, and if you believe in his little Conspiracy Theory then I\'m on record as saying so is yours.
I have never said Jake wasn\'t a good QB. I have nothing against the guy. Please get that through your head and stop trying to turn this into another Delhomme/Brooks debate. That\'s not the point. I will re-state the question as elementary as possible. Let me remind you this has N-O-T-H-I-N-G to do with Brooks, Warner, or any other QB you feel necessary to bring into this debate...this is about JAKE DELHOMME and ONLY Jake Delhomme...PLEASE keep that in mind as you read the question...

Why do you think it took Jake Delhomme so long to get his shot?

Please, now, don\'t try and justify Jake by stabbing at someone else...me included, ok? 08 quite obviously can\'t answer the question, so since you decided to be his knight in shining armor (again) maybe you can. Go ahead and try. Stop \"assuming\" what you think I mean. I don\'t \"mean\" anything. It\'s just a question that other people in this thread have already attempted to answer. 08 has already proven that he either can\'t or won\'t. How about you? Remember along the way that the question is not designed to take a shot at Delhomme. I acknowledge his simply wonderful play this year. Remember this post is aimed most specifically at 08\'s statement that Jim Haslett, from the time he was the \"D\" coordinator for the Steelers, began conspiring to keep Jake Delhomme off the field even to the detriment of his own coaching career. If you believe that then say so. If you don\'t then say that. I really don\'t care which way you believe. I am, however, quite curious. Stop attacking me and just answer the question already. OK, ready, set, GO! ;)

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It is a nice spin Saintsfan .

The theory starts with his days in Pittsburgh , like a single seed planted in a meadow . While coaching in Pittsburgh you might have to wonder if Haslett had ever heard of Delhomme .

Remember the question Saintsfan ???

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I need a \"generic stamp\" to post after everyone of 08\'s posts. And it would say:


WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??

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I just knew I couldn\'t be the only one.

OK 08...I get that you think it\'s a Conspiracy. I also think that\'s not accurate. You and I will just have to agree to disagree. I do wonder tho why you didn\'t just pick \"A\"

(a) the great Jake Delhomme conspiracy theory
(b) Jake doesn\'t practice well
(c) Cajun Accent
(d) other

Instead you chose \"D\" and then typed \"square pegs do not go in round holes\". \"A\" is obviously how you feel. You shoulda just typed \"A\" and saved us all the trouble. Whodat would have one less kidney stone if you\'d only typed \"A\". Jeesh...

And now we\'ll have to see what Whodat thinks...if he decides to answer the question...

[Edited on 13/1/2004 by saintfan]

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To all the Jake worshippers...
Jake beat out Rodney Peete and Chris Weinkie. WOW!

JT O\'Sullivan would be starting for Carolina this Sunday if he had signed with Carolina instead of Jake.

Its hard not to cheer for Jake, but too many people have their lips stuck in his cheeks and if he fell flat on his face and cost the Panthers the game I\'d laugh my asss off for a week.

Unfortunately I also think McNabb is extremely over-rated also so I\'m unsure who has the most glaring suck-ups. ;)

I guess I\'ll root for the defenses to knock them both out early and have a Rodney Peete / Koy Detmer shootout for MVP.

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Careful Danno. Thank kind of thinking got Rush Linbaugh fired.

:P

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Oh Yea I know, very thin ice in this hypersensitive PC world.

Next thing you know they\'ll investigate the pain pill prescriptions I took for my back.

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Saintsfan

Man you need to get that A.D.D. looked into . Got health care coverage ????

Your question Saintsfan :

The answer is square Pegs do not go in round holes .

Now I get :

Who Dat and I are both gonna pass a kidney stone trying to figure out how the great Jake conspiracy theory applies to Jake Delhomme\"s draft status and or his 98 and 99 seasons in Europe . Considering Haslett does not become the Head Coach of the New Orleans Saints until the 2000 season .

No, you and the other one that needs glasses .


The conspiracy theory is in the Haslett Era .

How does it apply to Jakes Draft status or NFLE time ????

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I started to ask someone to PLEASE explain what you are talking about 08...But, I decided not to for the following reasons:

1. I don\'t want to drag anyone else into it.

2. I\'m scared I might understand. (but I doubt it.)

[Edited on 13/1/2004 by BillyC]

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Why do you think it took Jake Delhomme so long to get his shot?

I\'m not sure what the point of this question is. I don\'t know why it took so long. I would assume it was because the guy was from a small school and the Saints always felt they had good options at QB.

What\'s the point of the question? How is it relavant to the topic at hand? Are you trying to make a correlation between the time it took for him to get a chance and his ability?

I\'m not buying the 08 conspiracy theory, but I am saying that Haslett granted Brooks special treatment and did not fairly evaluate Delhomme\'s talent. Maybe you disagree, but if that\'s the case then I assume you prefer Jeff Blake over Delhomme too, right? I mean, you just said you don\'t know why the guy didn\'t get a chance. This year he has proven he\'s good enough to start right? So your assessment is that he has simply come into his own in the last 4 months? Prior to that he was undeserving to be a starter in the NFL?

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Taken from another site :

Not sure the masses are feelin the BEAT love ..... :P

Wonder what might happen if Jake made the big screen .....lol

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Dude, that is all I was hoping to see you type. It\'s not a matter of whether or not Haz made a mistake...at least that wasn\'t the direction I was trying to go in when I asked the question. You can think whatever you want to think about me or Haz, but as someone who knows a bit about football (and someone with the willingness to be honest) I knew damn well you didn\'t really buy into 08\'s silly little conspiracy theory. Everything else is up for debate and thats fine, but some people have some pretty rediculous ideas...in my opinion. As for me I\'m ready now for this thread to die. ;)

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What is with you Louisiana fans?
1st my buddy says the LSU fans were absolutely rude hostile morons at the Sugar bowl. His son was wearing a OSU Buckeye shirt and the 12 year old was hasseled and screamed at for much of the game. And his dad was wearing an LSU cap! He said they were as rude as humanly possible to any and all FANS there that were from OU. He is the most polite and mild mannered person I\'ve met in years and for him to say he was fighting with fans telling them to shut-up and leave his kid alone spoke volumes.
Now they Boo Aaron at a basketball game?
I lived there in the 70\'s and don\'t remember it being so bad. I always wore my Bama shirt/jersey to the games and no one harrassed me, EVER. But now I keep reading and hearing more and more stories about abusive hostile jerks at LSU and Saints games.
WAKE UP MORONS, YOU\'RE BECOMING A LOT LIKE PHILLY FANS!!!

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Just image being surrounded by 70 thousand 08\'s...

:P

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Please...

I remember during the Sugar Bowl when an OU player went down in the 4th, and he eventually was able to walk off the field, the fans applauded him ass he was walking off. In Philly, they cheer when you go down, regardless of how severe the injury is- just ask Michael Irvin. Saw the game live and that turned my stomach.

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50 years of perpetual losing teams tends to sour a person Danno. Having been to a number of NFL and college stadiums up north I can say this about Louisiana fans: they are generally not as bright nor as downright unsportsman-like as fans up here. Fans up here are more educated and less polite... and I\'m in CHICAGO! The fans in New York, Philly, and Boston are unreal. Nasty, just plain hateful.

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I have heard it from Saints faithful and fans of other teams that have watched the Saints off and on over the years .

Brooks has 2 chances in New Orleans of winning over the masses as long as a Manning walks an N.F.L. football field :

1. Win the Super Bowl and be the M.V.P.
2. Catch the next train out of town .

The joke that goes along with that .

Until that day , Brooks no matter what he does , is wearing the correct number and that is # 2.

You may not agree , you may think how rude , but one thing is for sure and that is just the way it is .......

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Saintsfan

You been reading the Wheaties boxes again ????

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Does anyone have a decoder ring I can borrow? 08\'s posts continue to be cryptic.


Cryptic -- (krip\'tik) adj --
1. Hidden or Mysterious; baffling
2. Obscure and curt

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saintfan --

Ever been sober in a room full of drunks? None of the drunks make any sense, right? But, drink a fifth of whiskey yourself, and all of a sudden they make perfect sense.

Try drinking heavily before reading 08\'s posts. :P

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Doesn\'t work Billy. I\'m pissed right now and they still don\'t make sense. ;)

I\'ll tell you what though - next year I\'m putting a Bengy on Hotlanta to win it all. They\'ll be in the 40-1+ odds category and they could pull it out.

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I am not sure that I would not rather see a Benji on a hotplate rather the Atlanta in the Super Bowl again .

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Really? You wrote in another post a couple of days ago that you thought Lil\' Mora was a good hire. I\'ve been meaning to ask you why. So, why?

I need to make some cash, too. The wife\'d like a yard for me to mow.

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Last year

Atlanta Falcons 18-1

They have an offense , defensive mind to set the tempo on Defense with Mora jr.

Higher on the draft table and a GM that knows how too move the puzzle pieces .

No way they come off next year at 40 -1

They just aquired Ruskell to sit up top .

If they come off lower then 20-1 , I will make it a grand moment in Vegas . I am thinking they are the players this year in free agency ....

[Edited on 16/1/2004 by saintz08]