Why we win / Why we lose

pinch · 09-08-2011, 01:06 PM

In order for us to win I think we absolutely have to get early and often pressure on Rodgers. If he has any time at all I believe he will carve us up.

We also have to catch the football. Our offense is designed to march up and down the field but along the way we'll have lots of 3rd and shorts. This has routinely been the area where we could on Lance Moore, but without him we'll need Colston, Meachem, & Henderson to step-up. Colston has had the dropsies the last couple of seasons and we all know that Henderson isn't very reliable in the short-passing game.

We need our WRs to catch EVERYTHING thrown their way tonight if we expect to keep drives going and run down the clock.

SapperSaint · 09-08-2011, 01:14 PM

Win:
Running Game
Defense and Secondary
Play Calling

Lose:
Play Calling (Giving up on ground Game)
If we get behind 2 scores (Running Game disapears)
Defense is not as good as we hope/think it is

SaintsBro · 09-08-2011, 01:18 PM

TO WIN -- these are exactly the same as any game in the current Saints era:

- the "chess match" of Drew moving the opposing defense around the field to where he wants them, then exploiting it (Clay Matthews, the Packer secondary, etc)
- offensive line shows up
- Payton coming up with something unpredictable that works - going for it on 4th, onside kick, 3 TDs by the unknown fullback, etc

LOSE - these are exactly the same as any game in the current Saints era

- Drew with the turnovers, "forcing" it too much
- sloppy tackling
- poor special teams

Euphoria · 09-08-2011, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

why we win
we score more points than they do

why we lose
we score less points than they do

I couldn't resist

Yes but there is a lot of truth to this than one would think.

I don't care how or what... or even ughly.
Win - no matter how we have to win... when the smoke clears the score showing us with more points gets us the win.

Rugby Saint II · 09-08-2011, 01:38 PM

Win-No turnovers.....Oline protects......Dline applies pressure consistently
Lose-Lose containment on Rodgers....Turnovers......Unable to protect Drew

saintfan · 09-08-2011, 01:39 PM

The other team's QB must go down, and he must go down hard.

We need to run for 100+ and we need to get pressure on Rodgers. I think it's that simple.

The Dude · 09-08-2011, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

It's time to tap the infinite wisdom of our members. Let's hear three reasons why you think we win or lose tonight.

Win -

Sacks, hurries, knockdowns are limited. Protect Brees!

Run the ball down their throats. I mean 120yds or more.

Malcolm Jenkins has an interception.

Lose -

Minus in the turnover category.

3 and out on the first three drives.

Rodgers is allowed to make plays with his feet.

Yea if we dont run the ball more than 120 yds we are screwed. With all the backs we have if we dont run for more than 120 yds combined something is very very wrong. If we dont run the ball more than 120 yds tonight we will not win a game the rest of the season thats for sure. ONE of our backs needs to run the ball for 120yds.

09-08-2011, 01:19 PM	#24
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by 44Champs why we win we score more points than they do why we lose we score less points than they do I couldn't resist Yes but there is a lot of truth to this than one would think. I don't care how or what... or even ughly. Win - no matter how we have to win... when the smoke clears the score showing us with more points gets us the win.

09-08-2011, 03:49 PM	#27
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 It's time to tap the infinite wisdom of our members. Let's hear three reasons why you think we win or lose tonight. Win - Sacks, hurries, knockdowns are limited. Protect Brees! Run the ball down their throats. I mean 120yds or more. Malcolm Jenkins has an interception. Lose - Minus in the turnover category. 3 and out on the first three drives. Rodgers is allowed to make plays with his feet. Yea if we dont run the ball more than 120 yds we are screwed. With all the backs we have if we dont run for more than 120 yds combined something is very very wrong. If we dont run the ball more than 120 yds tonight we will not win a game the rest of the season thats for sure. ONE of our backs needs to run the ball for 120yds.
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09-08-2011, 01:06 PM	#21
pinch 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Diamondhead, MS Posts: 272 Blog Entries: 1	In order for us to win I think we absolutely have to get early and often pressure on Rodgers. If he has any time at all I believe he will carve us up. We also have to catch the football. Our offense is designed to march up and down the field but along the way we'll have lots of 3rd and shorts. This has routinely been the area where we could on Lance Moore, but without him we'll need Colston, Meachem, & Henderson to step-up. Colston has had the dropsies the last couple of seasons and we all know that Henderson isn't very reliable in the short-passing game. We need our WRs to catch EVERYTHING thrown their way tonight if we expect to keep drives going and run down the clock.

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	TO WIN -- these are exactly the same as any game in the current Saints era: - the "chess match" of Drew moving the opposing defense around the field to where he wants them, then exploiting it (Clay Matthews, the Packer secondary, etc) - offensive line shows up - Payton coming up with something unpredictable that works - going for it on 4th, onside kick, 3 TDs by the unknown fullback, etc LOSE - these are exactly the same as any game in the current Saints era - Drew with the turnovers, "forcing" it too much - sloppy tackling - poor special teams

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	The other team's QB must go down, and he must go down hard. We need to run for 100+ and we need to get pressure on Rodgers. I think it's that simple.