Want to Grade Loomis Now?

jeanpierre · 09-09-2011, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I say we really can't judge yet... But I still have the grade as a A for now.

Cam Jordan, just have not seen him do anything yet. Hell I never even heard his name being called either.

The point of the thread was that last night's game demonstrates that you don't geaux annointing someone "Executive of the Year" until you've seen the product during the season...

My past and current criticism of Loomis is because I try to look at the total picture rather than this signing or that draft pick...

Loomis has done some good things such as hiring Sean Payton...

Now, I've been a fan of Bush, but as many of you have posted, he's been a huge disappointment for many - and some of that criticism is rightfully cited.
Well, Loomis was in the room for that.

And why do we praise Loomis for picking Colston in Round 7 when all teams missed for six-plus previous rounds of picks and because he came up lotto in round 7, Loomis gets "Executive of the Year" - that just makes me scratch my head...

There were some obvious signings this year that made alot of sense and look good on paper; but where were the Outside Linebackers and Left Tackle splashes? We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps. See, it's a glass empty/full kinda thing.

papz · 09-09-2011, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The point of the thread was that last night's game demonstrates that you don't geaux annointing someone "Executive of the Year" until you've seen the product during the season...

I don't believe anyone anointed him preseason Executive of the Year. If so, please feel free to link it back to that thread. The fact of the matter is, he has been given that award yet to continue to criticism and call him an idiot.

My past and current criticism of Loomis is because I try to look at the total picture rather than this signing or that draft pick...

Wait for it... wait for it...

Now, I've been a fan of Bush, but as many of you have posted, he's been a huge disappointment for many - and some of that criticism is rightfully cited.
Well, Loomis was in the room for that.

And why do we praise Loomis for picking Colston in Round 7 when all teams missed for six-plus previous rounds of picks and because he came up lotto in round 7, Loomis gets "Executive of the Year" - that just makes me scratch my head...

You see anything wrong with post? You contradicted yourself.

If you truly were looking at the total picture, you'd take off your anti-Loomis badge off your chest and start acknowledge all the good things he's done here... and it's a lot.

There were some obvious signings this year that made alot of sense and look good on paper; but where were the Outside Linebackers and Left Tackle splashes? We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps. See, it's a glass empty/full kinda thing.

We drafted a very promising OLB, brought in Herring who they obviously felt could contribute, drafted a promising Charles Brown, and retained a SuperBowl starting/winning LT in Jermon Bushrod. We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps? What discounting Loomis for getting him down and under contract for less money elsewhere? Typical. It's half full for you jp, you wear that badge proud.

Loomis has done some good things such as hiring Sean Payton...

That's the only thing that we'd agree on... since you fail to recognize everything else.

jeanpierre · 09-09-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by papz

You see anything wrong with post? You contradicted yourself.

What?

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension?

How did I contradict myself?

You seem to read more into a post than what is posted.

And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters?

Since when is it so offensive to question his moves?

This is the United States of America. Free Speech.

I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits...

papz · 09-09-2011, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

What?

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension?

I hit a nerve? Want me to re-shine your badge for you?

How did I contradict myself?

You seem to read more into a post than what is posted.

I read that at face value.

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading comprehension?

And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters?

Nah, I just don't like it when bias and spoiled Saints fan rag on him for ridiculous reasons when all he has done is turn this franchise around.

Since when is it so offensive to question his moves?

This is the United States of America. Free Speech.

It is free speech. Is anyone hindering your ability to whine? Not me.

I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits...

Incorrect... take off your blinders.

An NFC Championship game, multiple winning seasons, a Superbowl ring, the acquistion of a franchise changing quarterback, hiring one of the best HC's in the league, one of the top DC's in the league, the drafting of two All Pro type guards, one of the biggest 7th round steals in recent memory, a Pro Bowl safety, another future all pro FS, the signing of Jabari Greer who helped us win a Superbowl, a drafting of Porter won us a Superbowl, numerous of discounted free agency steals, being one of the top cap-ologist in the league, the numerous impact UDFA signings like Lance Moore and Pierre Thomas, so on and so forth... and that's just off the top of my head.

So clearly, like you mentioned earlier... you like to look at the whole entire picture. There's obviously no unwarranted anti-Loomis bias working here... you just call it like you see. You realist you. Continue to wear that badge loud and proud my friend... lookin' sharp as always.

MorningWood · 09-09-2011, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

What?

Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension?

How did I contradict myself?

You seem to read more into a post than what is posted.

And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters?

Since when is it so offensive to question his moves?

This is the United States of America. Free Speech.

I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits...

Do you understand that the right to free speech is a protection from the government? There is no government agency here, just a bunch of Saints' fans on a private forum. The right to free speech does not protect you from us calling you a titty baby when you act like one.

Titty baby.

(Man, it's been a long time since I have even heard that term used, but it certainly does fit).

papz · 09-09-2011, 10:54 AM

Yea I was being extreme... saw what I did?

Took a page out of your book.

Take a chill pill... it's going to be a hell of a season. The sky is not falling.

strato · 09-09-2011, 10:57 PM

hagan714 · 09-10-2011, 05:13 AM

90% i still like

5% I am waiting to pass judgement

5% Have not changed my mind. WTF is still my feelings

papz · 09-09-2011, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater

Based on what we saw last night, he traded Andrew Luck for mark ingram. I have to go with "idiot".

How does this even make a shred of sense?

Saint_LB · 09-09-2011, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater

Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 and will qualify for the first pick, which we no longer have. That's Andrew Luck for mark ingram. Understand now?

Nope...I don't. I understand that you are saying that we won't win more than 2 games, but what I don't understand is how you can possibly think that is true. I would be willing to put my money where my mouth is, though...would you?

09-09-2011, 07:16 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by Ashley I say we really can't judge yet... But I still have the grade as a A for now. Cam Jordan, just have not seen him do anything yet. Hell I never even heard his name being called either. The point of the thread was that last night's game demonstrates that you don't geaux annointing someone "Executive of the Year" until you've seen the product during the season... My past and current criticism of Loomis is because I try to look at the total picture rather than this signing or that draft pick... Loomis has done some good things such as hiring Sean Payton... Now, I've been a fan of Bush, but as many of you have posted, he's been a huge disappointment for many - and some of that criticism is rightfully cited. Well, Loomis was in the room for that. And why do we praise Loomis for picking Colston in Round 7 when all teams missed for six-plus previous rounds of picks and because he came up lotto in round 7, Loomis gets "Executive of the Year" - that just makes me scratch my head... There were some obvious signings this year that made alot of sense and look good on paper; but where were the Outside Linebackers and Left Tackle splashes? We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps. See, it's a glass empty/full kinda thing.
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

09-09-2011, 07:46 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Originally Posted by jeanpierre The point of the thread was that last night's game demonstrates that you don't geaux annointing someone "Executive of the Year" until you've seen the product during the season... I don't believe anyone anointed him preseason Executive of the Year. If so, please feel free to link it back to that thread. The fact of the matter is, he has been given that award yet to continue to criticism and call him an idiot. My past and current criticism of Loomis is because I try to look at the total picture rather than this signing or that draft pick... Wait for it... wait for it... Now, I've been a fan of Bush, but as many of you have posted, he's been a huge disappointment for many - and some of that criticism is rightfully cited. Well, Loomis was in the room for that. And why do we praise Loomis for picking Colston in Round 7 when all teams missed for six-plus previous rounds of picks and because he came up lotto in round 7, Loomis gets "Executive of the Year" - that just makes me scratch my head... You see anything wrong with post? You contradicted yourself. If you truly were looking at the total picture, you'd take off your anti-Loomis badge off your chest and start acknowledge all the good things he's done here... and it's a lot. There were some obvious signings this year that made alot of sense and look good on paper; but where were the Outside Linebackers and Left Tackle splashes? We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps. See, it's a glass empty/full kinda thing. We drafted a very promising OLB, brought in Herring who they obviously felt could contribute, drafted a promising Charles Brown, and retained a SuperBowl starting/winning LT in Jermon Bushrod. We were fortunate Kreutz fell into our laps? What discounting Loomis for getting him down and under contract for less money elsewhere? Typical. It's half full for you jp, you wear that badge proud. Loomis has done some good things such as hiring Sean Payton... That's the only thing that we'd agree on... since you fail to recognize everything else.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

09-09-2011, 07:49 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by papz You see anything wrong with post? You contradicted yourself. What? Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension? How did I contradict myself? You seem to read more into a post than what is posted. And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters? Since when is it so offensive to question his moves? This is the United States of America. Free Speech. I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits...
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09-09-2011, 09:34 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Originally Posted by jeanpierre What? Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension? I hit a nerve? Want me to re-shine your badge for you? How did I contradict myself? You seem to read more into a post than what is posted. I read that at face value. Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading comprehension? And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters? Nah, I just don't like it when bias and spoiled Saints fan rag on him for ridiculous reasons when all he has done is turn this franchise around. Since when is it so offensive to question his moves? This is the United States of America. Free Speech. It is free speech. Is anyone hindering your ability to whine? Not me. I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits... Incorrect... take off your blinders. An NFC Championship game, multiple winning seasons, a Superbowl ring, the acquistion of a franchise changing quarterback, hiring one of the best HC's in the league, one of the top DC's in the league, the drafting of two All Pro type guards, one of the biggest 7th round steals in recent memory, a Pro Bowl safety, another future all pro FS, the signing of Jabari Greer who helped us win a Superbowl, a drafting of Porter won us a Superbowl, numerous of discounted free agency steals, being one of the top cap-ologist in the league, the numerous impact UDFA signings like Lance Moore and Pierre Thomas, so on and so forth... and that's just off the top of my head. So clearly, like you mentioned earlier... you like to look at the whole entire picture. There's obviously no unwarranted anti-Loomis bias working here... you just call it like you see. You realist you. Continue to wear that badge loud and proud my friend... lookin' sharp as always. Danno likes this.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

09-09-2011, 10:25 PM	#5
MorningWood 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 180	Originally Posted by jeanpierre What? Where did you learn English? Composition? Reading Comprehension? How did I contradict myself? You seem to read more into a post than what is posted. And why so sensitive to Loomis? Do you wash his car? Caddy his clubs? His intern at Saints headquarters? Since when is it so offensive to question his moves? This is the United States of America. Free Speech. I simply pointed out that he's got as many blunders as credits... Do you understand that the right to free speech is a protection from the government? There is no government agency here, just a bunch of Saints' fans on a private forum. The right to free speech does not protect you from us calling you a titty baby when you act like one. Titty baby. (Man, it's been a long time since I have even heard that term used, but it certainly does fit).
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09-09-2011, 10:54 AM	#6
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Yea I was being extreme... saw what I did? Took a page out of your book. Take a chill pill... it's going to be a hell of a season. The sky is not falling.

09-09-2011, 10:57 PM	#7
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09-10-2011, 05:13 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	90% i still like 5% I am waiting to pass judgement 5% Have not changed my mind. WTF is still my feelings

09-09-2011, 07:30 AM	#9
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,774	Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater Based on what we saw last night, he traded Andrew Luck for mark ingram. I have to go with "idiot". How does this even make a shred of sense? Halo, Saint_LB, SapperSaint and 3 others like this.

09-09-2011, 08:29 AM	#10
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by 2BnamedLater Then let me explain. Based on what we've seen in preseason and last night, I see us beating jacksonville and carolina at home. That's 2-14 and will qualify for the first pick, which we no longer have. That's Andrew Luck for mark ingram. Understand now? Nope...I don't. I understand that you are saying that we won't win more than 2 games, but what I don't understand is how you can possibly think that is true. I would be willing to put my money where my mouth is, though...would you?
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