Thoughts on Going for it on 4th down in the 3rd

bbourque5 · 09-09-2011, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

We make it, he's a hero. We don't, the call is questioned. That's life.

Sorry buddy but I have to disagree with you somewhat on this one. Of course if we make it he's a hero, but I would still question the call. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

Of course the average fan was probably yelling go for it, but Sean Payton is not a fan, he is a coach (he manages the team) and he has to do on the spot risk analysis. If you're going to go for it, you better have a better play that what we had. I'm not saying better play as in more creative, I mean a better play as in a high probability play. We were already in a bad place; going for it on 4th down when you're only down by 8 at the end of the third quarter is a huge risk, why make the risk even bigger with a bonehead play call.

NOS2SB · 09-10-2011, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by bbourque5

Sorry buddy but I have to disagree with you somewhat on this one. Of course if we make it he's a hero, but I would still question the call. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

Of course the average fan was probably yelling go for it, but Sean Payton is not a fan, he is a coach (he manages the team) and he has to do on the spot risk analysis. If you're going to go for it, you better have a better play that what we had. I'm not saying better play as in more creative, I mean a better play as in a high probability play. We were already in a bad place; going for it on 4th down when you're only down by 8 at the end of the third quarter is a huge risk, why make the risk even bigger with a bonehead play call.

So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it.

Srgt. Hulka · 09-11-2011, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by NOS2SB

So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it.

I may not have started a thread, but as soon as Drew did not hand the ball off, and it was clear that his intentions were to throw it, I started screaming at the TV "What are you doing!!". So yes, I saw immediately that it was the wrong call, and I would have questioned it, even if he had made a touchdown. And since we tried the exact same play on an earlier drive, and lost 20 yards on that one too...

09-09-2011, 09:35 AM	#1
bbourque5 Registered Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 49	Originally Posted by NOS2SB We make it, he's a hero. We don't, the call is questioned. That's life. Sorry buddy but I have to disagree with you somewhat on this one. Of course if we make it he's a hero, but I would still question the call. These two things are not mutually exclusive. Of course the average fan was probably yelling go for it, but Sean Payton is not a fan, he is a coach (he manages the team) and he has to do on the spot risk analysis. If you're going to go for it, you better have a better play that what we had. I'm not saying better play as in more creative, I mean a better play as in a high probability play. We were already in a bad place; going for it on 4th down when you're only down by 8 at the end of the third quarter is a huge risk, why make the risk even bigger with a bonehead play call.
bbourque5 Registered Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 49

09-10-2011, 02:39 AM	#2
NOS2SB Shampoo Join Date: May 2011 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 454	Originally Posted by bbourque5 Sorry buddy but I have to disagree with you somewhat on this one. Of course if we make it he's a hero, but I would still question the call. These two things are not mutually exclusive. Of course the average fan was probably yelling go for it, but Sean Payton is not a fan, he is a coach (he manages the team) and he has to do on the spot risk analysis. If you're going to go for it, you better have a better play that what we had. I'm not saying better play as in more creative, I mean a better play as in a high probability play. We were already in a bad place; going for it on 4th down when you're only down by 8 at the end of the third quarter is a huge risk, why make the risk even bigger with a bonehead play call. So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it.

09-11-2011, 08:27 AM	#3
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Originally Posted by NOS2SB So, if we would have made it would you have started a thread saying it was a questionable call and you question Payton as a play caller? I'm pretty sure no one would be talking about it. I may not have started a thread, but as soon as Drew did not hand the ball off, and it was clear that his intentions were to throw it, I started screaming at the TV "What are you doing!!". So yes, I saw immediately that it was the wrong call, and I would have questioned it, even if he had made a touchdown. And since we tried the exact same play on an earlier drive, and lost 20 yards on that one too...