lynwood

I say just do what it takes to win. Run,Pass, sack fumble.

AlaskaSaints

You run against an inferior defense. Of the last three games, all three were formative, therefore we were playing catch-up with the pass.

If the game is progressing in our favor, we'll see more running plays, but we have to score on our first or second series and get ahead!

But for God's sake, the game is not out of reach until we are up by 17 to 24 points. Keep scoring. I don't care if you do that with the run game or passing game.

Pedal to the metal for a full 60 minutes!

Alaska

HERE WE COME, TA GE' CHU!!!!

AlaskaSaints

Well, if we have a 4.4 average YPC, then basically we win if we win the coin toss and don't fumble?

I think not.

Fact is, you don't run just to say you did. You run if and when it's effective or when you want to keep a pass-rushing defense honest.

I think we can improve our running game by getting Ingram a little Northeast and Northwest time, especially since we cannot stabilize our O-line. That way he benefits from blocking by TEs and other backs.

I firmly believe that WITH A HEAD OF STEAM, Mark Ingram will be a beast, but he needs to get forward of the line to explode.

I keep having nightmares of that last play against Green Bay...

Recurring nightmares...

Alaska

HERE WE COME, TA GE' CHU!!!!

CantonLegend

of course you dont just run for the sake of running. however, we do need to establish some form of ground game. we turn the ball over so quickly with dropped passes or incompletions. at least with running the ball you can keep the ball.

something else of note is that we run more play actions than most other teams but we run the ball so few times. teams caught on last year and if we continue to play action without trying to run we are going to start seeing our sack totals go up again

lumm0x

I'm gonna run the middle ground in this argument. We have yet to display a balanced attack. With the effectiveness of our passing attack you would expect that when we do run to mix things up in a drive it would have better results as defenses have to respect the pass. The issue is that we run almost exclusively in predictable situations. Yet we still manage respectable averages and results when doing so. I think we will see some games where the run game becomes dominant and Payton rides it. And also we will see many more where it stays the way it is, a secondary tool to our passing attack sometimes forgotten. Hopefully be seasons end Payton feels them both enough to have great balance and excel at all situations against opponents. We can do it....again.

iceshack149

Canton, you used to post a lot here and at the time you seemed to get along with most of the posters. I'm not sure what happened but now when you post it smacks of arrogance and contempt.

Most of us are not interested in feculent behavior.

The Dude

Ill start *****ing that we don't run enough if we lose a game because we are not running enough. Up to now we have played from behind and win because we DONT run the ball. Having balance is a good general rule in the NFL, but it does not necessarily apply to us. We are an exception to the rule in this regard. People apply that rule to average teams or the majority of the teams in the NFL. We are not an average team, and our offense is unlike most if not all offenses in the NFL historically, so this rule does not apply to us as much as it does to other teams. Now if teams start figuring us out because we are one dimensional and Payton refuses to give the run a fair shake then I will question him. As for now any problems we have had have nothing whatsoever to do with us not running enough.

strato

Chris Ivory

AlaskaSaints

If he's healthy, we GOT a running game.

The Dude

I just don't see that happening. His running style lends himself to injury. Hes got to play smarter and not rely purely on his brute force. If he can do that maybe, but I am not holding out hope. I will be thrilled if he does work out, and will consider it an awesome bonus, but I am not holding my breath.