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AlaskaSaints 10-09-2011 05:18 PM

Where from here?
 
Without that early pick, we very likely lose.

Our offense cannot continue to carry the defense. And we're HEALTHY!

I feel like someone shot a hole in our bucket of luck, with buckshot, and it is running out quick.

I'm very happy that we eeked out this win, but I'm depressed at the same time as we are not gaining any ground with respect to our porous defense.

Although Ingram got his touchdown, I don't feel that he will ever make a 'big play'.

The unlucky pick for Brees was just that. He was FLAWLESS today.

We are going to wear out Sproles before the end of the season. Having to rely too heavily on him in my opinion.

Give Carolina credit; a couple more horrible calls going their way and they'll be a contender.

Tackling still an issue. Always an issue.

Shanle's hands are made of stone, covered with snot-slick algae. Right through his hands.

Our DB's are still playing too far off the line and not interrupting routes and we get shredded over the middle.

Carolina will bring their A game to New Orleans, and we'll need to be more than lucky.

Fire away. I'm thick-skinned.

Alaska

saintsfan1976 10-09-2011 05:28 PM

I think you're overreacting.

This team has been built over 5 seasons.

They're deep and they're well coached.

They make plays when they need to.

Up by two TD's? We win. Down by two TD's we find a way to come back.

We arguably have the second best team in the NFL next to Green Bay and even they have holes.

I'm confident in this team because we're in every single game. No matter what...

AlaskaSaints 10-09-2011 05:33 PM

I forgot; We will fall in the power rankings after this pitiful defensive display.

Alaska

Belair57 10-09-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 337863)
We are going to wear out Sproles before the end of the season. Having to rely too heavily on him in my opinion.

Alaska


This...and the fact that we are not spreading it around, its either sproles or graham...every game so far.

Srgt. Hulka 10-09-2011 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 337863)
Fire away. I'm thick-skinned.

Alaska

Alaska :biggun:

Just kidding. Hard to argue with any of that. We're ALL having heart attacks each week watching these games, and all we need is a little more defense.

spkb25 10-09-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 337863)
Without that early pick, we very likely lose.

Our offense cannot continue to carry the defense. And we're HEALTHY!

I feel like someone shot a hole in our bucket of luck, with buckshot, and it is running out quick.

I'm very happy that we eeked out this win, but I'm depressed at the same time as we are not gaining any ground with respect to our porous defense.


Alaska

Sorry, but I diagree with you about our Defense. First, the one TD doesn't happen if not for a horrid call by the refs. The second PF call was good, but the first was complete bull****, and we were off the field at that point. It was Chicago all over again. So that gives them 3 td's for the day. After that, their first TD really was less skill and more luck. Just how I see it. Cam had been hit on the throw and it was up for grabs, it just happen to turn out that SS came down with it and Greer fell.

At the end of the game, when our D needed to, they played well. Matter of fact, on the final drive they only had one completion (I am pretty sure) and another, in my opinion, BS call from refs.

I think we only gave up 2 or 3 td's today, and everyone has given up points to these guys. They aren't horrible offensively.

The other was a bad call. Total BS

Belair57 10-09-2011 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 337867)

This team has been built over 5 seasons.



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and yet Shanle is still here...Does he have some kind of black male on SP or what?

jnormand 10-09-2011 05:39 PM

Not worried. We needed a win today and we got it. Games are games. In our SB season we had several games where we "found a way to win". The bottom line here is that we have played 5 games against 5 pretty good teams. Carolina has the worst record of the the 5 but their record does not reflect their talent.

We can say that the defense looked awful but honestly the Pansies had some pretty ridiculous calls go their way.

I'm not saying the defense doesn't need work, but we are not bad either.

Euphoria 10-09-2011 06:35 PM

HORRIBLE D.

Sure the call kept the drive alive for them but there were other chances to stop them.

Case in point several chances they had to tackle Williams and our D tries to tackle at the shoulders??? a back like that you tackle low and wrap up.

It isn't just one game we have played horrible on D since day one!

|Mitch| 10-09-2011 06:42 PM

Can say what you want, but Cam Newton has been hovering around 400 yards passing a game and we held him to 224.

I'd say our defense is "decent", not great

They may give up the statistics, but hold when they need to for the most part and seem to be getting the job done the majority of the time.

spkb25 10-09-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 337911)
HORRIBLE D.

Sure the call kept the drive alive for them but there were other chances to stop them.

Irrelevant, we were off the field. Don't care what we could have, should have done, etc. we should have been off the field. bad call.

spkb25 10-09-2011 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 337916)
Can say what you want, but Cam Newton has been hovering around 400 yards passing a game and we held him to 224.

I'd say our defense is "decent", not great

They may give up the statistics, but hold when they need to for the most part and seem to be getting the job done the majority of the time.

agree. they have scored, 21,23,29,10, n 27

Euphoria 10-09-2011 06:51 PM

A game isn't just one play.

A player is entitled to have a bad day.

Its not all about stopping cam, how about not giving up big run plays. How about tackling someone... anyone...

QBREES9 10-09-2011 06:52 PM

They come up big when the have to. I just don't like the Roller Coaster ride anymore. In those immortal words of Srgt Hulka " I'm getting to old for this Sh** LOL

Euphoria 10-09-2011 06:53 PM

Coming up big when you have to isn't a D.

Its call lucky.

|Mitch| 10-09-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 337926)
how about not giving up big run plays. How about tackling someone... anyone...

How about winning? We seem to be doing that pretty well with our 15th ranked defense...

May not be pretty, but we're 4-1 all the same!

AlaskaSaints 10-09-2011 07:02 PM

49ers held phenom Josh Freeman to 3 points today. Next week, we get him.

If we can also shut him down, that'll shut my skepticism down.

But I doubt it.

If we don't toughen up our D, Matty-Ice (wooooooo) is going to shred us.
THAT is going to be one tough pill to swallow.

spkb25 10-09-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 337930)
Coming up big when you have to isn't a D.

Its call lucky.

No that was what the BS PF call was to extend a stalled drive, and the I am hit as throwing, throw it up for grabs lucky catch (greer falls) TD by smith.

That's lucky dog. How come only the Saints get lucky, but a horrible PF call on a 3rd they didn't convert and a third down toss up for grabs lucky catch and td, aren't? I don't get it, but that's 14 frigan points right there, and I think the INT by Brees lead to 7 more.

Euphoria 10-09-2011 07:03 PM

well they better get their act together Soon because guess what is going to happen in the playoffs... here is a hint... Seattle.

spkb25 10-09-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 337939)
49ers held phenom Josh Freeman to 3 points today. Next week, we get him.

If we can also shut him down, that'll shut my skepticism down.

But I doubt it.

If we don't toughen up our D, Matty-Ice (wooooooo) is going to shred us.
THAT is going to be one tough pill to swallow.

That's a silly theory. You're welcome to it, but that's silly. That's one game, and they were away.

Tampa, has scored 20, 24, 16, and 24. I say if we hold them to 20 or so that's normal, but we are also going to get their topppp game. A loss puts them 2.5 games behind us with Chicago coming up in London, and us after that, again.

AlaskaSaints 10-09-2011 07:07 PM

I've never made excuses for my actions, and I don't accept excuses for poor defense with this much talent.

We need to trounce someone. Then, we got us a team.

BUT, we're 4 and 1 at the end of today, and I'm a happy man for that!!

Geaux Saints!!!!

Alaska

spkb25 10-09-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 337942)
well they better get their act together Soon because guess what is going to happen in the playoffs... here is a hint... Seattle.

We are not nearly the same team we were then. We won a tough game on the road today. I'll take it. We have holes, I agree, but I don't think we are as terrible as being made out, that's all.

We aren't a top 5 D, I agree, but I think we are middle of the pack.

strato 10-09-2011 07:13 PM

Championship!

Euphoria 10-09-2011 07:14 PM

Yeah sure but we aren't expected to be middle of the pack with all the kool aide they were passing out in camp.

Every aspect of our team was to be improved and only ST's has improved and looks to be a step back going back to then end of last year I D started to take.

It wouldn't be such a big deal but what makes it a big deal is the mental errors we are making. That is the frustrating part.

|Mitch| 10-09-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 337949)
Yeah sure but we aren't expected to be middle of the pack with all the kool aide they were passing out in camp.

Every aspect of our team was to be improved and only ST's has improved and looks to be a step back going back to then end of last year I D started to take.

It wouldn't be such a big deal but what makes it a big deal is the mental errors we are making. That is the frustrating part.

The Eagles weren't expected to be 1-4 either; it could always be worse! cheer up!

spkb25 10-09-2011 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 337949)
Yeah sure but we aren't expected to be middle of the pack with all the kool aide they were passing out in camp.

Every aspect of our team was to be improved and only ST's has improved and looks to be a step back going back to then end of last year I D started to take.

It wouldn't be such a big deal but what makes it a big deal is the mental errors we are making. That is the frustrating part.

Oh, well that's a different matter all together. I am still hoping we'll get better as the year continues. Porter looked a little better today. That should help.

strato 10-09-2011 07:19 PM

Damn spoiled ass fans up in here...i thought we won today..it was DIVISION GAME..those will be tough...

spkb25 10-09-2011 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 337951)
The Eagles weren't expected to be 1-4 either; it could always be worse! cheer up!

Lol, true, and I love it. Dream Team

halloween 65 10-09-2011 07:22 PM

Without the b.s. calls, I'm feeling good about were the defense is right now. Is there room for improvement- yes, will we get better- yes. There not built to be " the dome patrol" I wish they were, but there not. They will get better.

spkb25 10-09-2011 07:23 PM

Just throwing it out there

Lets go Pack!

AlaskaSaints 10-09-2011 07:24 PM

One day we'll sit around after a crushing victory and do nothing but congratulate. I look forward to that day.

Until then, I LOVE to coach deficiencies (complain). LOL

Come on, Strato, I saw the tremble in your posts over on the LIVE board. We all had it!

It's all in fun with me. It would be lonely up here without you guys to complain to. The wife can only take so much of that!

Alaska

claus808 10-09-2011 07:31 PM

We find ways to win, the negativity from people on these forums is just unreal! We are going to the bowl this year, mark it up!

C17-BING 10-09-2011 07:34 PM

[QUOTE= If we don't toughen up our D, Matty-Ice (wooooooo) is going to shred us. THAT is going to be one tough pill to swallow.[/QUOTE]

Ha .. then he better score 41+ or it will be a mute point!

Maverick2299 10-09-2011 07:37 PM

Since we are talking about all our team issues. Why not bring up the fact, that we are scoring field goals over TDs?
Also it was a Div road game....I dont care where who you are....they are always tuff.

Yea the D can use some work, but so can the O. Also Cam newton is a beast, he is second in total yards. yes he is a rookie but a very good one.

strato 10-09-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 337959)
One day we'll sit around after a crushing victory and do nothing but congratulate. I look forward to that day.

Until then, I LOVE to coach deficiencies (complain). LOL

Come on, Strato, I saw the tremble in your posts over on the LIVE board. We all had it!

It's all in fun with me. It would be lonely up here without you guys to complain to. The wife can only take so much of that!

Alaska


I was one of the few who believed..lol..in Drew i trust:bng:

Euphoria 10-09-2011 08:23 PM

The game wouldn't have been tough if we actually had a D.

|Mitch| 10-09-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 337975)
The game wouldn't have been tough if we actually had a D.

and IF we didn't have Drew we would have lost...

xan 10-09-2011 08:25 PM

Look, everyone,

I know that you've had your fill of my pessimism, but this is what being a saints fan is like. We have tight chests and stress migraines the entire season. No team is going to slice through the NFL like the 86 bears, so let's just get over it.

Enjoy the sadistic thrill.

jcp026 10-09-2011 08:34 PM

Ingram isn't going to have a big gain because he only gets the ball on third and one. They try to force the ball to Sproles too much. Pierre Thomas is being wasted. We weren't down in this game, we don't want to run. We don't try to run. This play calling is terrible.

FireVenturi 10-09-2011 08:50 PM

Your going to be tested, even by Carolina. We only beat them in the dome by a field goal in the dome, with no Cam last year. All of their losses have been very close.

I love ya dude, but stop sweating it. We are 4-1 and it's over and on to the Bucs.


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