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mikesaintfan 10-10-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardigras9 (Post 338191)
Defense keps giving up big plays, eventually the Offense won't be there to bail them out. It will be a killer in a big game.

um....kinda like the green bay game?...offense kicked ass but d gave up alot

Srgt. Hulka 10-10-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 338205)
The most telling thing about our "D", without diving in to stats (which never tell the whole story good or bad) or over-thinking this or that is this:

Carolina ran the OPTION on us successfully. This is the NFL, and they were having good results running the OPTION. You really don't have to look beyond that, do you?

At least twice! I almost lost it when I saw that. I even commented on it on the live chat. I couldn't believe it.

skymike 10-10-2011 05:22 PM

I think our defense gave them hell, actually.

Look at the last Carolina scoring drive. They got 2 timely penalties,
but otherwise struggled to find the EZ. Eventually, something's gonna
break free, which it did, but I think our D gave em hell.

Did you see the hit Vilma put on SCam? After that, he really didnt want any more. If you watch the replay of him throwing the TD, he was all set
to flinch, and was expecting to be hit again. They just happened to get one easy opening. They got lucky and they got help, and when it came down to the drive that really mattered, we stuffed em, even with the refs helping them. That last drive wasnt even close to a threat. Also notice
on the hail Mary, how we didnt just sit back and rush 3. Newton had no chance.

DeAngelo Williams is gonna run somebody over. Steve Smith will bite once. They ran a college trick play. Whoop de doo.

Call me crazy, but im seeing this D get better every week. This wont even be a close game when it comes to the Dome.

ScottF 10-10-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 338205)
The most telling thing about our "D", without diving in to stats (which never tell the whole story good or bad) or over-thinking this or that is this:

Carolina ran the OPTION on us successfully. This is the NFL, and they were having good results running the OPTION. You really don't have to look beyond that, do you?

The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up?
Of course, a better question might be where were the DE and OLB on that play, but that's a different thread

skymike 10-12-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 338304)
The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up?...

thats a great point.

Danno 10-12-2011 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 338304)
The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up?
Of course, a better question might be where were the DE and OLB on that play, but that's a different thread

Both were washed way inside, and with Harper blitzing it was an absolutely perfect play call. Even if Harper played Williams, Cam turns it upfield untouched for a huge gain.

skymike 10-12-2011 08:09 AM

Any NFL team could probably pull off the college option play, because it is completely unexpected.

But really, how smart is it to run the option in the NFL? Would you want us doing this with Brees?

Jerry Glanville says This aint college, Ron. You're not at a Homecoming. This is the N.F.L, which stands for Not For Long, which will describe SCam Newton's career, if you keep calling plays like that.

Newton already got the business end of Jon Vilma on their last scoring drive. Go ahead. Make our day.


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