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mikesaintfan · 10-10-2011, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mardigras9

Defense keps giving up big plays, eventually the Offense won't be there to bail them out. It will be a killer in a big game.

um....kinda like the green bay game?...offense kicked ass but d gave up alot

Srgt. Hulka · 10-10-2011, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

The most telling thing about our "D", without diving in to stats (which never tell the whole story good or bad) or over-thinking this or that is this:

Carolina ran the OPTION on us successfully. This is the NFL, and they were having good results running the OPTION. You really don't have to look beyond that, do you?

At least twice! I almost lost it when I saw that. I even commented on it on the live chat. I couldn't believe it.

skymike · 10-10-2011, 06:22 PM

I think our defense gave them hell, actually.

Look at the last Carolina scoring drive. They got 2 timely penalties,
but otherwise struggled to find the EZ. Eventually, something's gonna
break free, which it did, but I think our D gave em hell.

Did you see the hit Vilma put on SCam? After that, he really didnt want any more. If you watch the replay of him throwing the TD, he was all set
to flinch, and was expecting to be hit again. They just happened to get one easy opening. They got lucky and they got help, and when it came down to the drive that really mattered, we stuffed em, even with the refs helping them. That last drive wasnt even close to a threat. Also notice
on the hail Mary, how we didnt just sit back and rush 3. Newton had no chance.

DeAngelo Williams is gonna run somebody over. Steve Smith will bite once. They ran a college trick play. Whoop de doo.

Call me crazy, but im seeing this D get better every week. This wont even be a close game when it comes to the Dome.

ScottF · 10-10-2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

The most telling thing about our "D", without diving in to stats (which never tell the whole story good or bad) or over-thinking this or that is this:

Carolina ran the OPTION on us successfully. This is the NFL, and they were having good results running the OPTION. You really don't have to look beyond that, do you?

The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up?
Of course, a better question might be where were the DE and OLB on that play, but that's a different thread

skymike · 10-12-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up?...

thats a great point.

Danno · 10-12-2011, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up?
Of course, a better question might be where were the DE and OLB on that play, but that's a different thread

Both were washed way inside, and with Harper blitzing it was an absolutely perfect play call. Even if Harper played Williams, Cam turns it upfield untouched for a huge gain.

skymike · 10-12-2011, 09:09 AM

Any NFL team could probably pull off the college option play, because it is completely unexpected.

But really, how smart is it to run the option in the NFL? Would you want us doing this with Brees?

Jerry Glanville says This aint college, Ron. You're not at a Homecoming. This is the N.F.L, which stands for Not For Long, which will describe SCam Newton's career, if you keep calling plays like that.

Newton already got the business end of Jon Vilma on their last scoring drive. Go ahead. Make our day.

10-10-2011, 05:43 PM	#31
mikesaintfan 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2006 Location: new jersey Posts: 1,070	Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Defense keps giving up big plays, eventually the Offense won't be there to bail them out. It will be a killer in a big game. um....kinda like the green bay game?...offense kicked ass but d gave up alot

10-10-2011, 06:11 PM	#32
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Originally Posted by saintfan The most telling thing about our "D", without diving in to stats (which never tell the whole story good or bad) or over-thinking this or that is this: Carolina ran the OPTION on us successfully. This is the NFL, and they were having good results running the OPTION. You really don't have to look beyond that, do you? At least twice! I almost lost it when I saw that. I even commented on it on the live chat. I couldn't believe it.

10-10-2011, 08:10 PM	#34
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by saintfan The most telling thing about our "D", without diving in to stats (which never tell the whole story good or bad) or over-thinking this or that is this: Carolina ran the OPTION on us successfully. This is the NFL, and they were having good results running the OPTION. You really don't have to look beyond that, do you? The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up? Of course, a better question might be where were the DE and OLB on that play, but that's a different thread

10-12-2011, 08:52 AM	#35
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by ScottF The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up?... thats a great point.

10-12-2011, 08:56 AM	#36
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by ScottF The scary thing is that with the new NFL darling back there, you won't even be able to touch him if he does pitch it on the option. Did you see Harper pull up? Of course, a better question might be where were the DE and OLB on that play, but that's a different thread Both were washed way inside, and with Harper blitzing it was an absolutely perfect play call. Even if Harper played Williams, Cam turns it upfield untouched for a huge gain.

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10-10-2011, 06:22 PM	#33
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	I think our defense gave them hell, actually. Look at the last Carolina scoring drive. They got 2 timely penalties, but otherwise struggled to find the EZ. Eventually, something's gonna break free, which it did, but I think our D gave em hell. Did you see the hit Vilma put on SCam? After that, he really didnt want any more. If you watch the replay of him throwing the TD, he was all set to flinch, and was expecting to be hit again. They just happened to get one easy opening. They got lucky and they got help, and when it came down to the drive that really mattered, we stuffed em, even with the refs helping them. That last drive wasnt even close to a threat. Also notice on the hail Mary, how we didnt just sit back and rush 3. Newton had no chance. DeAngelo Williams is gonna run somebody over. Steve Smith will bite once. They ran a college trick play. Whoop de doo. Call me crazy, but im seeing this D get better every week. This wont even be a close game when it comes to the Dome.

10-12-2011, 09:09 AM	#37
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Any NFL team could probably pull off the college option play, because it is completely unexpected. But really, how smart is it to run the option in the NFL? Would you want us doing this with Brees? Jerry Glanville says This aint college, Ron. You're not at a Homecoming. This is the N.F.L, which stands for Not For Long, which will describe SCam Newton's career, if you keep calling plays like that. Newton already got the business end of Jon Vilma on their last scoring drive. Go ahead. Make our day.