Our D: It is what it is

pumpkindriver · 10-14-2011, 12:43 AM

For what its worth, I was listening to The Sirus Blitz today and Schein & Gannon were talking about defense in general. Teams with better than average offenses are going up and down the field between the 20's on everybody. What is making the difference is the Red Zone Defense. Once the field compresses, then coverage gets tighter, less room to manuever etc. What is winning games is holding teams to FG's.

The Dude · 10-14-2011, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

G3 seems more focused on getting sacks rather than creating turnovers.

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I dont get this. We rarely get to the QB unless its a ****ty Oline like the Bears. The reason we cannot tackle worth a damn is because he coaches the players to go for the strip rather than to wrap up and actually tackle. I think if he focused less on creating turnovers and more on the fundamentals like tackling and blocking the turnovers and sacks would follow. IMO the biggest knock on GW is that he focuses too much on the turnovers.

MatthewT · 10-14-2011, 02:58 AM

The good news is right now most of the better teams aren't doing that well on defense. I do believe the Saints will improve as the season progresses. It has been a frustrating start, especially considering the expectations we all have. At this point I would love for the Saints defense to get even more aggressive with blitzes. Their front line isn't able to do it without help. I know blitzes gets you burned, but I will take a couple of burns at this point if that means shutting the rest of it down. Whatever happened to that 46 defense Williams was suppose to install, at least on a part time basis? Well, I haven't seen much of it this season. Perhaps he is saving it for later... LOL

Seer1 · 10-14-2011, 07:51 AM

The tackling has been weak. I watch Baltimore or Pittsburg and those guys are wrapping and dropping like crazy. I dream of seeing a bunch of Black and Gold slobberknockers but you know what? Their W L numbers aren't any better than ours. It seems like the JETW defense is the way to go this year. I'll be happy if we can just cut out those ridiculous long runs against us.

(Just Enough To Win)

Euphoria · 10-16-2011, 07:43 PM

...and still is.

I seriously wouldn't call them average. You know they are going to run and you have to stop them and you give them 6-10 yards a carry... yikes.

|Mitch| · 10-16-2011, 07:47 PM

Our defense is very inconsistent! It's almost like they only put out any effort 10% of the game...

Euphoria · 10-16-2011, 08:27 PM

At least they are good at one thing... "being inconsistent".

No I say they are pretty consistant now. They couldn't stop Seattle in the playoffs and have made ever offense we played against this year pretty good minus the second half vs Chicago.

Haps Biggest Fan · 10-17-2011, 11:36 AM

I'd say that the Saints defense right now is mediocre.

Saints offense has a mediocre running game.

The only thing that the Saints do better than most is the passing game. Other than that, Saints are fairly pedestrian.

10-14-2011, 02:06 AM	#22
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Originally Posted by 44Champs G3 seems more focused on getting sacks rather than creating turnovers. t I dont get this. We rarely get to the QB unless its a ****ty Oline like the Bears. The reason we cannot tackle worth a damn is because he coaches the players to go for the strip rather than to wrap up and actually tackle. I think if he focused less on creating turnovers and more on the fundamentals like tackling and blocking the turnovers and sacks would follow. IMO the biggest knock on GW is that he focuses too much on the turnovers.
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10-14-2011, 02:58 AM	#23
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	The good news is right now most of the better teams aren't doing that well on defense. I do believe the Saints will improve as the season progresses. It has been a frustrating start, especially considering the expectations we all have. At this point I would love for the Saints defense to get even more aggressive with blitzes. Their front line isn't able to do it without help. I know blitzes gets you burned, but I will take a couple of burns at this point if that means shutting the rest of it down. Whatever happened to that 46 defense Williams was suppose to install, at least on a part time basis? Well, I haven't seen much of it this season. Perhaps he is saving it for later... LOL strato likes this.

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pumpkindriver 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Killeen, Tx. Posts: 932	For what its worth, I was listening to The Sirus Blitz today and Schein & Gannon were talking about defense in general. Teams with better than average offenses are going up and down the field between the 20's on everybody. What is making the difference is the Red Zone Defense. Once the field compresses, then coverage gets tighter, less room to manuever etc. What is winning games is holding teams to FG's.

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10-14-2011, 07:51 AM	#24
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	The tackling has been weak. I watch Baltimore or Pittsburg and those guys are wrapping and dropping like crazy. I dream of seeing a bunch of Black and Gold slobberknockers but you know what? Their W L numbers aren't any better than ours. It seems like the JETW defense is the way to go this year. I'll be happy if we can just cut out those ridiculous long runs against us. (Just Enough To Win)

10-16-2011, 07:43 PM	#25
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	...and still is. I seriously wouldn't call them average. You know they are going to run and you have to stop them and you give them 6-10 yards a carry... yikes.

10-16-2011, 07:47 PM	#26
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Our defense is very inconsistent! It's almost like they only put out any effort 10% of the game...

10-16-2011, 08:27 PM	#27
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	At least they are good at one thing... "being inconsistent". No I say they are pretty consistant now. They couldn't stop Seattle in the playoffs and have made ever offense we played against this year pretty good minus the second half vs Chicago.

10-17-2011, 11:36 AM	#28
Haps Biggest Fan Fan Since 1967 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 148	I'd say that the Saints defense right now is mediocre. Saints offense has a mediocre running game. The only thing that the Saints do better than most is the passing game. Other than that, Saints are fairly pedestrian.