LivnaLieTimay

JP, you make some very good points. I was thinking the same thing about our first round picks the last couple years. While we've done well in the mid and late rounds we have missed out on opportunities to draft impact players early in the draft. Will Smith was a decent 1st round pick in 04 but you really have to go back to 01 to find the last time we hit on a first round pick when we drafted Deuce.

Your point about the organization being in denial about our LB's is also very true. I went back and found the last time we drafted a LB in the first round was 1995. It seems that every year we say we need a LB and for whatever reason we don't draft them. So we're stuck with old, washed up LB's.

Losing SP from the sidelines was huge. I said it in the chat that they looked sluggish once he went out and it carried through the entire game.

GW playcalling has been real bad but without quality players on the field it doesn't matter what play is being called. There isn't one guy on our defense that I would be upset if they left. We have zero impact players on the defensive side of the ball and you see it in the number of takeaways.

At the end of the day, we are still 4-2 and tied for first in the division. There's only 1 real good team in the NFL so there's no doubt in my mind this team can make some noise if we just do the little things. Hopefully this game will serve as a wake up call and we come back as a better team.

SaintPauly

Detroit, 49ers, Bills, Patriots, Packers........ In our current state of affairs, i dont think we would beat any one of these teams. Already lost to the packers as it is. If this defense doesnt figure out how to stop people, im sorry guys but play offs maybe, superbowl? I dont think so.

papz

Giving up hope already paul? Shame on you.

Make the playoffs and it's a whole new ball game. The Colts, Giants, and our very own Saints have shown we can get it down defensively when it matters the most... regardless of regular season defensive statistics.

AlaskaSaints

Spot on, my Miss'ippi brother!

Alaska (through Kosciusko)

Budsdrinker

We don't have a high motor guy on defense. I think we made a mistake letting Hargrove walk.

strato

Hargrove..Sharper to man the backend...Danny Clarke....Randall Gay...Goodwin...Remi..we supposedly upgraded ..i dont see it...only thing we upgraded was the kicker..

Danno

There's really only 1 thing wrong with our defense. The front 4.

If the front four can't get pressure, all 7 players on the backend will be exploited throughout the entire game. Thats why Jenkins, Porter, Greer, Harper, Vilma, Shanle, Dunbar, all got burned throughout the entire game.

It all starts up front. If that doesn't improve you'll see our LB's and DB's exploited again and again.

darstep

Exactly!
Our front 4 has ONE-z's on the score card every week.
Cam, Franklin, Rogers, Ellis, Smith ... how do you play a whole game and only have 1 tackle?
and maybe an assist? and NO sacks? and give a backup RB +100?
We'll be all right. I keep telling myself that. You think if I keep saying it it will suddenly become true?

papz

Yes it certainly didn't help having Freeman standing still in the pocket waiting for his receivers to get open. You can only stay with your man for so long.

Mardigras9

Agree with Danno, front four is getting no pressure. Offense can't have a off day or we lose every time.