10 Things wrong with our defense.

Srgt. Hulka · 10-16-2011, 07:53 PM

This is the game we ALL knew was coming. We didn't know when, but we knew it. We've played like this in every game this season. Only difference, like tbe Green Bay game, we failed to get into the end zone on the last drive. OK, here it is, what do we do now?

G504 · 10-16-2011, 07:59 PM

NO TURNOVERS. Our Superbowl year, we could count on at least 1 a game, and at least one going to the house every other game. I mean, let's face it, we don't get picks in '09, we lose a lot of games, including the Superbowl. We probably would have still won the NFCC because even if we didn't get any interceptions, Favre would have some how still thrown one.

Jack Vegas · 10-16-2011, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by G504

NO TURNOVERS. Our Superbowl year, we could count on at least 1 a game, and at least one going to the house every other game. I mean, let's face it, we don't get picks in '09, we lose a lot of games, including the Superbowl. We probably would have still won the NFCC because even if we didn't get any interceptions, Favre would have some how still thrown one.

Didn't get turnovers last year either, but we still managed to have a pretty solid defense. Don't get what is different from last year to this year but there should be jobs on the line if this crap doesn't get better like now.

breesfan27 · 10-16-2011, 08:07 PM

How much time do you have??

SapperSaint · 10-16-2011, 09:40 PM

When the defense doesn't get a chance to catch their breath.... it's hard to look good on defense.

Hear me out.
if Drew and the offense was scoring on each or every other possesion; then the defense is mentally pumped up.

With the offense going 3 and out or turning the ball over as soon as they step on the field; the mental toughness goes out the window.

I place the blame of the loss soley on the offense. Drew was off, most of the offense was off. Our defense is noting to win a game for us, this year. They just aren't that strong.

Now, they had their bad (for some reason the word "bad" just doesn't seem to be a good enough word) I think we will be fine.

I do agree with Euph. I place the defensive play, blame, square on GW. This defense and defensive scheme is not working. AT ALL.

Kryptonite · 10-17-2011, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

When the defense doesn't get a chance to catch their breath.... it's hard to look good on defense.

Hear me out.
if Drew and the offense was scoring on each or every other possesion; then the defense is mentally pumped up.

With the offense going 3 and out or turning the ball over as soon as they step on the field; the mental toughness goes out the window.

I place the blame of the loss soley on the offense. Drew was off, most of the offense was off. Our defense is noting to win a game for us, this year. They just aren't that strong.

Now, they had their bad (for some reason the word "bad" just doesn't seem to be a good enough word) I think we will be fine.

I do agree with Euph. I place the defensive play, blame, square on GW. This defense and defensive scheme is not working. AT ALL.

Totally agree. Offense does not help the defense at all. I talk about the defense just a much as the next guy. They gave up 20pts in the first half but only 6 in the second. Where in the hell is the offense? The defense is horrible in the first half let's just face it but they get their chit together when it counts. IMHO, the reason we are down so fast and so often is because they are always on the damn field. It takes the offense until mid-fourth qtr to realize they are in a game.

They/we keep screaming about how hi-powered and potent our offense is. Well, PROVE IT!!!!

Because each and everytime the other team scores, guess who takes the field? Exactly....

Cory9289 · 10-16-2011, 09:51 PM

You guys don't understand how much harder it is when your coordinator blitzes the front 6-7 and the QB is just lala'ing in the pocket throwing bullets.

We play defense like blackjack, our only problem is, we bust more than we get 21.

jeanpierre · 10-16-2011, 09:53 PM

What we've learned so far this season is...

Offensive line took huge hits with the losses of Stinchcomb and Goodwin...

Greg Williams is a streaky Defensive Coordinator with great sound bites...

Denial about the linebacker corps is catching up to the Saints...

We have not drafted impact first round talent in several years...

And the Saints need to start getting younger as their division rivals have...

Sean Payton is the Heart and Soul of the New Orleans Saints...

LBCutta · 10-16-2011, 10:09 PM

Our defense is simply not very good. On every level. We are bound to give up a 100 yard rusher every week. We make every QB, regardless of talent look like Tom Brady. The OFFENSE is what wins us games more time than not. And they had a bad game. Our offense bails the defense out every week. We needed the defense today and of course no help. Tampa didnt play that well we just played bad.....

LBCutta · 10-16-2011, 10:12 PM

Also, I watch average teams and hope that we had a defense like them. I mean most teams can stop the run. We cant! I cringe when I see a team hand off the ball.....Hell I cringe when I see them drop back for a pass. We give up too many big plays. And we cant do that on the road.

10-16-2011, 07:53 PM	#1
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	This is the game we ALL knew was coming. We didn't know when, but we knew it. We've played like this in every game this season. Only difference, like tbe Green Bay game, we failed to get into the end zone on the last drive. OK, here it is, what do we do now? Belair57 and SaintsRule11 like this.

10-16-2011, 07:59 PM	#2
G504 100th Post Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 424	NO TURNOVERS. Our Superbowl year, we could count on at least 1 a game, and at least one going to the house every other game. I mean, let's face it, we don't get picks in '09, we lose a lot of games, including the Superbowl. We probably would have still won the NFCC because even if we didn't get any interceptions, Favre would have some how still thrown one. SaintsRule11 likes this.
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10-16-2011, 08:03 PM	#3
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Originally Posted by G504 NO TURNOVERS. Our Superbowl year, we could count on at least 1 a game, and at least one going to the house every other game. I mean, let's face it, we don't get picks in '09, we lose a lot of games, including the Superbowl. We probably would have still won the NFCC because even if we didn't get any interceptions, Favre would have some how still thrown one. Didn't get turnovers last year either, but we still managed to have a pretty solid defense. Don't get what is different from last year to this year but there should be jobs on the line if this crap doesn't get better like now.
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254

10-16-2011, 09:40 PM	#5
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	When the defense doesn't get a chance to catch their breath.... it's hard to look good on defense. Hear me out. if Drew and the offense was scoring on each or every other possesion; then the defense is mentally pumped up. With the offense going 3 and out or turning the ball over as soon as they step on the field; the mental toughness goes out the window. I place the blame of the loss soley on the offense. Drew was off, most of the offense was off. Our defense is noting to win a game for us, this year. They just aren't that strong. Now, they had their bad (for some reason the word "bad" just doesn't seem to be a good enough word) I think we will be fine. I do agree with Euph. I place the defensive play, blame, square on GW. This defense and defensive scheme is not working. AT ALL.
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10-17-2011, 09:23 AM	#6
Kryptonite DAMMIT BOY! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Crestview, FL via S'port LA Posts: 197	Originally Posted by SapperSaint When the defense doesn't get a chance to catch their breath.... it's hard to look good on defense. Hear me out. if Drew and the offense was scoring on each or every other possesion; then the defense is mentally pumped up. With the offense going 3 and out or turning the ball over as soon as they step on the field; the mental toughness goes out the window. I place the blame of the loss soley on the offense. Drew was off, most of the offense was off. Our defense is noting to win a game for us, this year. They just aren't that strong. Now, they had their bad (for some reason the word "bad" just doesn't seem to be a good enough word) I think we will be fine. I do agree with Euph. I place the defensive play, blame, square on GW. This defense and defensive scheme is not working. AT ALL. Totally agree. Offense does not help the defense at all. I talk about the defense just a much as the next guy. They gave up 20pts in the first half but only 6 in the second. Where in the hell is the offense? The defense is horrible in the first half let's just face it but they get their chit together when it counts. IMHO, the reason we are down so fast and so often is because they are always on the damn field. It takes the offense until mid-fourth qtr to realize they are in a game. They/we keep screaming about how hi-powered and potent our offense is. Well, PROVE IT!!!! Because each and everytime the other team scores, guess who takes the field? Exactly....

10-16-2011, 08:07 PM	#4
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	How much time do you have??

10-16-2011, 09:51 PM	#7
Cory9289 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 275	You guys don't understand how much harder it is when your coordinator blitzes the front 6-7 and the QB is just lala'ing in the pocket throwing bullets. We play defense like blackjack, our only problem is, we bust more than we get 21.
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10-16-2011, 09:53 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	What we've learned so far this season is... Offensive line took huge hits with the losses of Stinchcomb and Goodwin... Greg Williams is a streaky Defensive Coordinator with great sound bites... Denial about the linebacker corps is catching up to the Saints... We have not drafted impact first round talent in several years... And the Saints need to start getting younger as their division rivals have... Sean Payton is the Heart and Soul of the New Orleans Saints... Rugby Saint II likes this.
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10-16-2011, 10:09 PM	#9
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Our defense is simply not very good. On every level. We are bound to give up a 100 yard rusher every week. We make every QB, regardless of talent look like Tom Brady. The OFFENSE is what wins us games more time than not. And they had a bad game. Our offense bails the defense out every week. We needed the defense today and of course no help. Tampa didnt play that well we just played bad.....

10-16-2011, 10:12 PM	#10
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Also, I watch average teams and hope that we had a defense like them. I mean most teams can stop the run. We cant! I cringe when I see a team hand off the ball.....Hell I cringe when I see them drop back for a pass. We give up too many big plays. And we cant do that on the road.

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