Should Kreutz be benched?

FinSaint · 10-18-2011, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by beau13

I think the offensive line is lacking in leadership. Stinch was the leader of the O-line and no one has stepped up to take on that role. Thought it would be Evans, but that's not happening. I know it is Drew's team, but each group has it's own leader, it is time for somebody to step up.

To follow up on your sentiment... I thought that it was weird that Kreutz immediately was wearing the captain's patch in the season opener against the Packers, because I would've thought that, for example, one of the guards would've stepped up as the leader - of the O-line at least.

But I can't recall Kreutz having the patch anymore, so he must have lost it somewhere along the way... anyway, I thought that Brees, Vilma, and Roby were the captains of the 3 teams, but I know Smith has also worn the C at times.

And to comment on the original question of the thread - I would like to see DLP take that center position from Kreutz simply because he was able to create push from the middle, which Kreutz hasn't been able to do in any of the games he has played for the Saints. This was one of the biggest complaints the Bears' fans also had about him... being undersized and getting pushed back or even on to his back by the D-linemen.

QBREES9 · 10-18-2011, 12:24 PM

I never heard his name he must be good, De La Puente seems more effective.

AllSaints · 10-18-2011, 05:33 PM

but he is a Caption... hahaha um idk Im not impressed with our O-line in General....

neugey · 10-19-2011, 07:58 AM

Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well.

strato · 10-19-2011, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well.

Good point .. i talked about this the other day in another thread ..we lose Goody..Stinch...and the cohesiveness of the line..

strato · 10-20-2011, 12:26 PM

I hope the coaches let DLP play..we were running the ball better with him in there....and he wasn't getting blown off the ball like Kreutz...we seemed to have a little chemistry going . Why fix what wasn't broken?

FinSaint · 10-20-2011, 05:11 PM

Also, I am not sure if the details of Kreutz's contract have been released, but I recall it being 2M + another 2M if certain conditions are met. If those certain conditions were... for example, tied to how many games he starts this season - the Saints could potentially save 2M by starting DLP instead of Kreutz.

I know the conditions are probably performance based in another way, and that it would be kind of a rotten deal for the Saints to screw him over in such a way if it was the type of a deal I mentioned above, but in the end it is a business and if DLP can at least be as effective as Kreutz - I wouldn't see a problem with benching Kreutz.

SaintPauly · 10-20-2011, 05:23 PM

Well, chicago did let him go. If he was all that, seems they would have fought harder to re-sign him. Once again, whats up with Tennant? Thought he was ready to go!

Papa Voodoo · 10-21-2011, 05:34 PM

Any Kreutz news lately? Did we bench him? Is he still passionate? How are his finances?

foreverfan · 10-21-2011, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Any Kreutz news lately? Did we bench him? Is he still passionate? How are his finances?

LOL

10-18-2011, 07:40 AM	#21
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by beau13 I think the offensive line is lacking in leadership. Stinch was the leader of the O-line and no one has stepped up to take on that role. Thought it would be Evans, but that's not happening. I know it is Drew's team, but each group has it's own leader, it is time for somebody to step up. To follow up on your sentiment... I thought that it was weird that Kreutz immediately was wearing the captain's patch in the season opener against the Packers, because I would've thought that, for example, one of the guards would've stepped up as the leader - of the O-line at least. But I can't recall Kreutz having the patch anymore, so he must have lost it somewhere along the way... anyway, I thought that Brees, Vilma, and Roby were the captains of the 3 teams, but I know Smith has also worn the C at times. And to comment on the original question of the thread - I would like to see DLP take that center position from Kreutz simply because he was able to create push from the middle, which Kreutz hasn't been able to do in any of the games he has played for the Saints. This was one of the biggest complaints the Bears' fans also had about him... being undersized and getting pushed back or even on to his back by the D-linemen.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

10-19-2011, 07:58 AM	#24
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-19-2011, 08:20 AM	#25
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by neugey Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well. Good point .. i talked about this the other day in another thread ..we lose Goody..Stinch...and the cohesiveness of the line..

10-20-2011, 05:11 PM	#27
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Also, I am not sure if the details of Kreutz's contract have been released, but I recall it being 2M + another 2M if certain conditions are met. If those certain conditions were... for example, tied to how many games he starts this season - the Saints could potentially save 2M by starting DLP instead of Kreutz. I know the conditions are probably performance based in another way, and that it would be kind of a rotten deal for the Saints to screw him over in such a way if it was the type of a deal I mentioned above, but in the end it is a business and if DLP can at least be as effective as Kreutz - I wouldn't see a problem with benching Kreutz.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

10-21-2011, 06:04 PM	#30
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Any Kreutz news lately? Did we bench him? Is he still passionate? How are his finances? LOL

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10-18-2011, 12:24 PM	#22
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10-20-2011, 12:26 PM	#26
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I hope the coaches let DLP play..we were running the ball better with him in there....and he wasn't getting blown off the ball like Kreutz...we seemed to have a little chemistry going . Why fix what wasn't broken?

10-20-2011, 05:23 PM	#28
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Well, chicago did let him go. If he was all that, seems they would have fought harder to re-sign him. Once again, whats up with Tennant? Thought he was ready to go!

10-21-2011, 05:34 PM	#29
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Any Kreutz news lately? Did we bench him? Is he still passionate? How are his finances?

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