Should Kreutz be benched?

MatthewT · 10-17-2011, 05:38 PM

I am not going to blame all this on Kreutz, but you guys may be on to something. The entire front line, for whatever reason, is a complete mess right now. It is very alarming that Drew Brees has all of a sudden popped up to 8 interceptions for the year, the running game is being stuffed way too much, and the leading pass catchers on the team is a tight end and running back. Ouch, not to mention Brees is on pace for 704 attempted passes.

Basically it all pretty much means is Brees is throwing way too many times, which leads to interceptions, no running game causes Brees to throw too many times, then has to dump it off to safety valves because there is really no time to set up. Really points to the o-line at this point.

Believe me, turn the o-line around, which will get the running game going, which will allow time for Brees to get it to his wide receivers, and then miraculously the defense and Gregg Williams no longer look like idiots...

Speedy Ron · 10-17-2011, 06:15 PM

i thought the same thing. id rather de la puenta also

Mardigras9 · 10-17-2011, 06:27 PM

The whole line seems soft with no leader. Drew has been under pressure from lesser D's and it's getting old watching "the three headed monster" run into walls., it's a wasted down and thus we lead the league in 3rd down conversions. Have not been impressed with Kreutz, but can't single him out as the problem.

QBREES9 · 10-18-2011, 11:24 AM

I never heard his name he must be good, De La Puente seems more effective.

AllSaints · 10-18-2011, 04:33 PM

but he is a Caption... hahaha um idk Im not impressed with our O-line in General....

neugey · 10-19-2011, 06:58 AM

Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well.

strato · 10-19-2011, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well.

Good point .. i talked about this the other day in another thread ..we lose Goody..Stinch...and the cohesiveness of the line..

strato · 10-20-2011, 11:26 AM

I hope the coaches let DLP play..we were running the ball better with him in there....and he wasn't getting blown off the ball like Kreutz...we seemed to have a little chemistry going . Why fix what wasn't broken?

FinSaint · 10-20-2011, 04:11 PM

Also, I am not sure if the details of Kreutz's contract have been released, but I recall it being 2M + another 2M if certain conditions are met. If those certain conditions were... for example, tied to how many games he starts this season - the Saints could potentially save 2M by starting DLP instead of Kreutz.

I know the conditions are probably performance based in another way, and that it would be kind of a rotten deal for the Saints to screw him over in such a way if it was the type of a deal I mentioned above, but in the end it is a business and if DLP can at least be as effective as Kreutz - I wouldn't see a problem with benching Kreutz.

SaintPauly · 10-20-2011, 04:23 PM

Well, chicago did let him go. If he was all that, seems they would have fought harder to re-sign him. Once again, whats up with Tennant? Thought he was ready to go!

10-17-2011, 05:38 PM	#1
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	I am not going to blame all this on Kreutz, but you guys may be on to something. The entire front line, for whatever reason, is a complete mess right now. It is very alarming that Drew Brees has all of a sudden popped up to 8 interceptions for the year, the running game is being stuffed way too much, and the leading pass catchers on the team is a tight end and running back. Ouch, not to mention Brees is on pace for 704 attempted passes. Basically it all pretty much means is Brees is throwing way too many times, which leads to interceptions, no running game causes Brees to throw too many times, then has to dump it off to safety valves because there is really no time to set up. Really points to the o-line at this point. Believe me, turn the o-line around, which will get the running game going, which will allow time for Brees to get it to his wide receivers, and then miraculously the defense and Gregg Williams no longer look like idiots... strato likes this.

10-19-2011, 06:58 AM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,885 Blog Entries: 13	Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-19-2011, 07:20 AM	#7
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by neugey Maybe we miss Goodwin more than we thought we would. Niners are 5-1 and running the ball very well. Good point .. i talked about this the other day in another thread ..we lose Goody..Stinch...and the cohesiveness of the line..

10-20-2011, 04:11 PM	#9
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Also, I am not sure if the details of Kreutz's contract have been released, but I recall it being 2M + another 2M if certain conditions are met. If those certain conditions were... for example, tied to how many games he starts this season - the Saints could potentially save 2M by starting DLP instead of Kreutz. I know the conditions are probably performance based in another way, and that it would be kind of a rotten deal for the Saints to screw him over in such a way if it was the type of a deal I mentioned above, but in the end it is a business and if DLP can at least be as effective as Kreutz - I wouldn't see a problem with benching Kreutz.
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10-17-2011, 06:15 PM	#2
Speedy Ron I'm an A hole Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Metry Posts: 1,173	i thought the same thing. id rather de la puenta also

10-17-2011, 06:27 PM	#3
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	The whole line seems soft with no leader. Drew has been under pressure from lesser D's and it's getting old watching "the three headed monster" run into walls., it's a wasted down and thus we lead the league in 3rd down conversions. Have not been impressed with Kreutz, but can't single him out as the problem.

10-18-2011, 11:24 AM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	I never heard his name he must be good, De La Puente seems more effective.

10-18-2011, 04:33 PM	#5
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	but he is a Caption... hahaha um idk Im not impressed with our O-line in General....

10-20-2011, 11:26 AM	#8
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	I hope the coaches let DLP play..we were running the ball better with him in there....and he wasn't getting blown off the ball like Kreutz...we seemed to have a little chemistry going . Why fix what wasn't broken?

10-20-2011, 04:23 PM	#10
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	Well, chicago did let him go. If he was all that, seems they would have fought harder to re-sign him. Once again, whats up with Tennant? Thought he was ready to go!