I am TRULY disappointed

saintfan · 11-11-2011, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Fin, I think they've built a very good team from top to bottom. Julio will take pressure off of White and open things up underneath for Gonzalez.

Julio is a great kid. He played HS football right down the street from me.

I don't like them on a rivalry level, but I respect them and what they've done.

They aren't opening up a damn thing until they get a QB. Right now they have a glorified (media) bus driver. We've seen how far 'skid britches' (thanks again Hulka) can take them. That's it. There is no more.

homerj07 · 11-11-2011, 10:35 PM

Big Game - for both teams. We both need a win. Which Saints team shows up??

The one last week against Tampa - the onle that bee-atch slapped the Bears OR will it be the POS team that showed up against St L (Y do they have our frippen number???)??

alldat · 11-11-2011, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Fin, I think they've built a very good team from top to bottom. Julio will take pressure off of White and open things up underneath for Gonzalez.

Julio is a great kid. He played HS football right down the street from me.

I don't like them on a rivalry level, but I respect them and what they've done.

oh for ****'s sake i don't believe what I'm reading on a SAINT'S FAN site?!?!?!?!?

RaginCajun83 · 11-11-2011, 11:45 PM

*uck Atlanta, I really want to see the Saints drop 70 on them. Here's to Harper and Jenkins landing a few "remember me" shots this Sunday

xan · 11-11-2011, 11:51 PM

Somewhat better, but I sense restraint. Pretend your a republican candidate at a debate: red meat for everyone!

I wonder if we are really going to miss Vilma. I wonder if our o-line will realize it hurts less to hit first. I wonder if Brees will look before throwing the check down. I wonder if, three years together, our front seven can pronounce "cutback." Does 3rd and 10+ mean DBs play 12 yards off the receiver? Will any defensive signal mean "man" to some and "zone" to others. Will the refs pay attention, or will white and jones escape drawing pass interference calls when pushing off the defender. Will payton show the imagination of bread mold in the red zone.

CharityMike · 11-12-2011, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Somewhat better, but I sense restraint. Pretend your a republican candidate at a debate: red meat for everyone!

I wonder if we are really going to miss Vilma. I wonder if our o-line will realize it hurts less to hit first. I wonder if Brees will look before throwing the check down. I wonder if, three years together, our front seven can pronounce "cutback." Does 3rd and 10+ mean DBs play 12 yards off the receiver? Will any defensive signal mean "man" to some and "zone" to others. Will the refs pay attention, or will white and jones escape drawing pass interference calls when pushing off the defender. Will payton show the imagination of bread mold in the red zone.

All very good questions. I especially liked the bread mold one.

strato · 11-12-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Somewhat better, but I sense restraint. Pretend your a republican candidate at a debate: red meat for everyone!

I wonder if we are really going to miss Vilma. I wonder if our o-line will realize it hurts less to hit first. I wonder if Brees will look before throwing the check down. I wonder if, three years together, our front seven can pronounce "cutback." Does 3rd and 10+ mean DBs play 12 yards off the receiver? Will any defensive signal mean "man" to some and "zone" to others. Will the refs pay attention, or will white and jones escape drawing pass interference calls when pushing off the defender. Will payton show the imagination of bread mold in the red zone.

Xan ...lol..the master of pessimism...will you be in chat sunday?

xan · 11-12-2011, 10:06 AM

of course!

FinSaint · 11-12-2011, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Fin, I think they've built a very good team from top to bottom. Julio will take pressure off of White and open things up underneath for Gonzalez.

Julio is a great kid. He played HS football right down the street from me.

I don't like them on a rivalry level, but I respect them and what they've done.

I'm not questioning their work overall, because I do agree with you that they've build a very good team while overcoming some very difficult obstacles in the process (f.e. Vick), but I do think that it was a serious miscalculation to basically give up their whole draft for just one player, because they had many other holes to fill also.

And Dimitroff himself said in an interview on draft day that they chose this approach because Foolio was the one player in the draft who they felt would make their offense complete and allow Matty Lice to have the option of stretching the field, which had been one of the bigger criticisms made against the Failclowns offense over the past couple of seasons... and I guess they saw it as one of the bigger reasons to why they went down in the playoffs last time around.

Trading away your whole draft for one single player is a gamble at the best of times, and it usually doesn't really work out... a concept the Saints' fans are more than familiar with.

strato · 11-12-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'm not questioning their work overall, because I do agree with you that they've build a very good team while overcoming some very difficult obstacles in the process (f.e. Vick), but I do think that it was a serious miscalculation to basically give up their whole draft for just one player, because they had many other holes to fill also.

And Dimitroff himself said in an interview on draft day that they chose this approach because Foolio was the one player in the draft who they felt would make their offense complete and allow Matty Lice to have the option of stretching the field, which had been one of the bigger criticisms made against the Failclowns offense over the past couple of seasons... and I guess they saw it as one of the bigger reasons to why they went down in the playoffs last time around.

Trading away your whole draft for one single player is a gamble at the best of times, and it usually doesn't really work out... a concept the Saints' fans are more than familiar with.

And we know all about trading your whole draft for one player

11-11-2011, 08:30 PM	#31
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Danno Fin, I think they've built a very good team from top to bottom. Julio will take pressure off of White and open things up underneath for Gonzalez. Julio is a great kid. He played HS football right down the street from me. I don't like them on a rivalry level, but I respect them and what they've done. They aren't opening up a damn thing until they get a QB. Right now they have a glorified (media) bus driver. We've seen how far 'skid britches' (thanks again Hulka) can take them. That's it. There is no more. strato and Srgt. Hulka like this.

11-11-2011, 11:28 PM	#33
alldat 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 113	Originally Posted by Danno Fin, I think they've built a very good team from top to bottom. Julio will take pressure off of White and open things up underneath for Gonzalez. Julio is a great kid. He played HS football right down the street from me. I don't like them on a rivalry level, but I respect them and what they've done. oh for ****'s sake i don't believe what I'm reading on a SAINT'S FAN site?!?!?!?!?
alldat 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 113

11-11-2011, 11:51 PM	#35
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,369 Blog Entries: 34	Somewhat better, but I sense restraint. Pretend your a republican candidate at a debate: red meat for everyone! I wonder if we are really going to miss Vilma. I wonder if our o-line will realize it hurts less to hit first. I wonder if Brees will look before throwing the check down. I wonder if, three years together, our front seven can pronounce "cutback." Does 3rd and 10+ mean DBs play 12 yards off the receiver? Will any defensive signal mean "man" to some and "zone" to others. Will the refs pay attention, or will white and jones escape drawing pass interference calls when pushing off the defender. Will payton show the imagination of bread mold in the red zone. CharityMike likes this.
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11-12-2011, 12:01 AM	#36
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by xan Somewhat better, but I sense restraint. Pretend your a republican candidate at a debate: red meat for everyone! I wonder if we are really going to miss Vilma. I wonder if our o-line will realize it hurts less to hit first. I wonder if Brees will look before throwing the check down. I wonder if, three years together, our front seven can pronounce "cutback." Does 3rd and 10+ mean DBs play 12 yards off the receiver? Will any defensive signal mean "man" to some and "zone" to others. Will the refs pay attention, or will white and jones escape drawing pass interference calls when pushing off the defender. Will payton show the imagination of bread mold in the red zone. All very good questions. I especially liked the bread mold one.

11-12-2011, 01:17 AM	#37
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by xan Somewhat better, but I sense restraint. Pretend your a republican candidate at a debate: red meat for everyone! I wonder if we are really going to miss Vilma. I wonder if our o-line will realize it hurts less to hit first. I wonder if Brees will look before throwing the check down. I wonder if, three years together, our front seven can pronounce "cutback." Does 3rd and 10+ mean DBs play 12 yards off the receiver? Will any defensive signal mean "man" to some and "zone" to others. Will the refs pay attention, or will white and jones escape drawing pass interference calls when pushing off the defender. Will payton show the imagination of bread mold in the red zone. Xan ...lol..the master of pessimism...will you be in chat sunday?

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11-11-2011, 10:35 PM	#32
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Big Game - for both teams. We both need a win. Which Saints team shows up?? The one last week against Tampa - the onle that bee-atch slapped the Bears OR will it be the POS team that showed up against St L (Y do they have our frippen number???)??

11-11-2011, 11:45 PM	#34
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11-12-2011, 10:06 AM	#38
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11-12-2011, 12:06 PM	#39
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Danno Fin, I think they've built a very good team from top to bottom. Julio will take pressure off of White and open things up underneath for Gonzalez. Julio is a great kid. He played HS football right down the street from me. I don't like them on a rivalry level, but I respect them and what they've done. I'm not questioning their work overall, because I do agree with you that they've build a very good team while overcoming some very difficult obstacles in the process (f.e. Vick), but I do think that it was a serious miscalculation to basically give up their whole draft for just one player, because they had many other holes to fill also. And Dimitroff himself said in an interview on draft day that they chose this approach because Foolio was the one player in the draft who they felt would make their offense complete and allow Matty Lice to have the option of stretching the field, which had been one of the bigger criticisms made against the Failclowns offense over the past couple of seasons... and I guess they saw it as one of the bigger reasons to why they went down in the playoffs last time around. Trading away your whole draft for one single player is a gamble at the best of times, and it usually doesn't really work out... a concept the Saints' fans are more than familiar with. strato likes this.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

11-12-2011, 12:07 PM	#40
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Originally Posted by FinSaint I'm not questioning their work overall, because I do agree with you that they've build a very good team while overcoming some very difficult obstacles in the process (f.e. Vick), but I do think that it was a serious miscalculation to basically give up their whole draft for just one player, because they had many other holes to fill also. And Dimitroff himself said in an interview on draft day that they chose this approach because Foolio was the one player in the draft who they felt would make their offense complete and allow Matty Lice to have the option of stretching the field, which had been one of the bigger criticisms made against the Failclowns offense over the past couple of seasons... and I guess they saw it as one of the bigger reasons to why they went down in the playoffs last time around. Trading away your whole draft for one single player is a gamble at the best of times, and it usually doesn't really work out... a concept the Saints' fans are more than familiar with. And we know all about trading your whole draft for one player

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