"Steady Shanle" Appreciation Thread

[AlaskaSaints]

Okay, Strato; granted... LOL

BUT! Explain how he "helped" us win a Superbowl! LOL

He didn't have a tackle IN the Superbowl, nor did he have a tackle in that SEASON. Okay, maybe ONE! LOL

It's truly laughable if it weren't so sad.

Imagine a TRUE, top-caliber Pat Swilling performer at his position. But you're absolutely right in that he's all we got until we GET.

All in fun,

Alaska

[strato]

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Okay, Strato; granted... LOL

BUT! Explain how he "helped" us win a Superbowl! LOL

He didn't have a tackle IN the Superbowl, nor did he have a tackle in that SEASON. Okay, maybe ONE! LOL

It's truly laughable if it weren't so sad.

Imagine a TRUE, top-caliber Pat Swilling performer at his position. But you're absolutely right in that he's all we got until we GET.

All in fun,

Alaska

I give up..lol..y'all just debate it...i meant no harm...

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Okay, Strato; granted... LOL

BUT! Explain how he "helped" us win a Superbowl! LOL

He didn't have a tackle IN the Superbowl, nor did he have a tackle in that SEASON. Okay, maybe ONE! LOL

It's truly laughable if it weren't so sad.

Imagine a TRUE, top-caliber Pat Swilling performer at his position. But you're absolutely right in that he's all we got until we GET.

All in fun,

Alaska

He may not have had a tackle but he hit Manning several times, and a couple conveniently late.

[strato]

Yeah i agree we have to get help at OLB via draft or free agency next year..

[AlaskaSaints]

If, IF we can land a top-rate OLB next year we will repeat THIS year's Superbowl win.

However, we have no early picks, so a Ndamakong Suh is out of the question.

Gonna be interesting at what we give away to get that low pick.

Alaska

[strato]

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

If, IF we can land a top-rate OLB next year we will repeat THIS year's Superbowl win.

However, we have no early picks, so a Ndamakong Suh is out of the question.

Gonna be interesting at what we give away to get that low pick.

Alaska

Yeah that makes the Ingram pick hard to digest sometimes...he will be good..but there are RBs better or as good that we could have got in the lower rds and saved our pick..oh..well no regrets...like this guy in the 3rd

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...demarco-murray

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by strato

Yeah that makes the Ingram pick hard to digest sometimes...he will be good..but there are RBs better or as good that we could have got in the lower rds and saved our pick..oh..well no regrets...like this guy in the 3rd

DeMarco Murray Stats - Dallas Cowboys - ESPN

Ingram was a smart move at the time. PT and Ivory were both injured and Reggie was still on the roster. Nobody knew Sproles would be the best pickup since Brees either. Ingram was a proven back in the SEC and virtually injury free. Once he dropped down that far Saints had to grab him.

[FinSaint]

Originally Posted by strato

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Oh, and I fixed this for you.

Originally Posted by strato

Oh come on now..he aint that bad..he is a Saint and we were able to win the superbowl inspite of having him...i don't think he making a ton of money..solid player that needs to be upgraded...but for now he is all we got..lol

[SaintsBro]

One of the Gregg Williams patented "things" is finding kinda "no-name" guys and coaching them up to be decent for the scheme. All his defenses are like this.... No, Shanle is not MVP or Hall Of Fame type material, but I find it really weird when people get all psyched up over Gregg Williams defenses in one thread, and then turn around and bash on Shanle in another -- it's guys like Shanle who have made Gregg Williams defenses work, every place he's been. My take on Gregg Williams' "thing" at the linebacker position, both here and other places, is that it's based around having one excellent or GREAT linebacker, and then a bunch of faceless no names, who as long as they do their job, with a very strong secondary and a certain type of guys on the D-line, the overall scheme should work.

Of course when it doesn't work and it's directly Shanle's fault, that's one thing -- I'll yell as loud as anybody. But to me, griping about Shanle all the time is sorta like, I start wondering if maybe some people should go root for a different team, one that has a different defensive coordinator and a different defensive philosophy than the Saints. Because Shanle IS a classic Gregg Williams type of player, in terms of pieces of the puzzle. So were Fujita and Casillas and Clark and Dunbar, none of them are big names or "holy terror" kinda linebackers. This is not the Dome Patrol, and it's never gonna be that.

[FinSaint]

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

One of the Gregg Williams patented "things" is finding kinda "no-name" guys and coaching them up to be decent for the scheme. All his defenses are like this.... No, Shanle is not MVP or Hall Of Fame type material, but I find it really weird when people get all psyched up over Gregg Williams defenses in one thread, and then turn around and bash on Shanle in another -- it's guys like Shanle who have made Gregg Williams defenses work, every place he's been. My take on Gregg Williams' "thing" at the linebacker position, both here and other places, is that it's based around having one excellent or GREAT linebacker, and then a bunch of faceless no names, who as long as they do their job, with a very strong secondary and a certain type of guys on the D-line, the overall scheme should work.

Of course when it doesn't work and it's directly Shanle's fault, that's one thing -- I'll yell as loud as anybody. But to me, griping about Shanle all the time is sorta like, I start wondering if maybe some people should go root for a different team, one that has a different defensive coordinator and a different defensive philosophy than the Saints. Because Shanle IS a classic Gregg Williams type of player, in terms of pieces of the puzzle. So were Fujita and Casillas and Clark and Dunbar, none of them are big names or "holy terror" kinda linebackers. This is not the Dome Patrol, and it's never gonna be that.

The fact that the DC builds schemes which utilize the player material at their disposal in the best possible way they can does not mean that suddenly a player who's weaknesses are limited as much as they can be by those schemes becomes a good or a great player - the DC is simply doing his job as he is supposed to.

Shanle is an average LB, who - in my point of view - is more of an liability than a strength in the Saints' D. If that makes me an unworthy supporter of the Saints then tough cookies... I'm not changing the colors I wear.