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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I love you Ivory fans. The smallest amount of production from him and he's "the greatest". That would be Ingram...93 for 340 Ivory 158 for 801..there chief...lol...fixed it for ya...

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Old 11-14-2011, 07:34 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
I love you Ivory fans.

The smallest amount of production from him and he's "the greatest".

That would be Ingram...93 for 340

Ivory 158 for 801..there chief...lol...fixed it for ya

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Old 11-17-2011, 09:43 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by strato View Post
That would be Ingram...93 for 340

Ivory 158 for 801..there chief...lol...fixed it for ya
I think you need to fix that to this year's stats to make it fair though Strato.
Ivory 21 for 85. Look I love Ivory too but you have to take into consideration what the situations are when the players enter the game. How many 1st down carries has Ingram had? 95% of the time he comes in on short yardage situations and he gets the yards needed to move the chains except for maybe twice and one was the first game against the Packers when everybody and their brother knew we were going to run with the personnel that came out on the field. Just about every NFL defenses can make a stop when they know what is coming, look at Sunday against the Failclowns. You think they are ready to put Jaquizz Rogers in front of Turner after Turner was stopped on 4th and inches? If all you do is run the ball when Ingram is in there it will be tougher for him to average 4 yards a pop. PT ran well because he is also one of the best screen RB's in the league and teams can't always play the run with him in the backfield. If we don't mix it up it will always be tough for us to have success no matter who is in the backfield. Our longest run is from Sproles why? Because when he is in there teams expect us to pass the ball the majority of the time and we catch them off guard. If we ran the ball more out of spread formation and shotgun with Ingram or with any of the RB's I think we would have more success. I know we will always be a passing team but it would be nice to take some pressure off of Drew and run the ball 30 times a game. We are in a good situation this year with 4 good active RB's and a pretty decent 5th choice in Bell if he is ever needed and we need to keep them all healthy and involved because it looks like we will end up with the 3rd seed and have to play in the snow to reach our goal and we will need to run the ball to do that but we also need to mix it up and not be predictable when we do run it.

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