Go Back   New Orleans Saints - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints
Shop Horizontal

You know,

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I'm not buying that Ivory missed that game because of injury. No freakin way. He was getting better after his first game back which is normal and looked real good against Tampa and was set to have an even better ...

Like Tree29Likes

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-14-2011, 02:28 PM   #1
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,247
You know,

I'm not buying that Ivory missed that game because of injury. No freakin way. He was getting better after his first game back which is normal and looked real good against Tampa and was set to have an even better game this past Sunday and Payton comes up with this hamstring BS so he could try to get some more validation for his new offensive toy Mark Ingram who blew again this week.
strato and AlaskaSaints like this.
Marlboro Man is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 02:33 PM   #2
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas"
Posts: 7,770
I like this only because i think Ivory is the better RB right now...he see's the hole better and is more explosive...now say what you want about the O_line...P.T got yards on a few carries yesterday and Ivory did last week..

I would hope draft status wouldn't matter here..just the better player..

Im not hating on Ingram,..he is a rookie..but was supposed to be NFL ready...he has not lived up to that bill yet..

I think he will ...but were trying to win games..NOW...so if he needs more work in practice on how to use the O-Line ..let P.T... Ivory and Sproles carry the load..save him for the playoffs..
AlaskaSaints likes this.
strato is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 02:38 PM   #3
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Canton, Ohio
Posts: 2,683
Blog Entries: 2
hey monday morning QB.....where were you when ingram was bursting through the colts defense?

ivory had 18 yards against the rams......you call that production?

come on man....you know nobody is going to get anything going with only 10 touches a game....give it a rest
TheKillerBs likes this.
CantonLegend is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 02:41 PM   #4
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas"
Posts: 7,770
Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
hey monday morning QB.....where were you when ingram was bursting through the colts defense?

ivory had 18 yards against the rams......you call that production?

come on man....you know nobody is going to get anything going with only 10 touches a game....give it a rest
That was his first game back...and the O-Line was not there that day..they missed the plane...the next week..he led the team in rushing with 67..and as you say.. we didn't run the ball against the rams either..so his point does have some merit..
strato is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 02:49 PM   #5
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Canton, Ohio
Posts: 2,683
Blog Entries: 2
Originally Posted by strato View Post
That was his first game back...and the O-Line was not there that day..they missed the plane...the next week..he led the team in rushing with 67..and as you say.. we didn't run the ball against the rams either..so his point does have some merit..
67 yards on 15 carries......how many times has ingram been given 15 of anything?

you cant see production if you're not going to give a player the opportunity

a first round pick deserves more than 8 carries. when he gets over 10 carries a game his ypc average skyrockets

otherwise he was just an expensive short yardage guy
CantonLegend is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 02:51 PM   #6
Site Donor
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Anchorage, AK
Posts: 2,138
Blog Entries: 2
Maybe he should do sprints up and down the sideline before he gets put in... Based upon your logic, Canton.

67/15 = 4.something.

When Ingram shows up 4.something, he'll see the ball more.

Alaska
AlaskaSaints is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 02:53 PM   #7
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas"
Posts: 7,770
I think if Ingram was getting more he would get more..
strato is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 02:55 PM   #8
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas"
Posts: 7,770
Originally Posted by CantonLegend View Post
67 yards on 15 carries......how many times has ingram been given 15 of anything?

you cant see production if you're not going to give a player the opportunity

a first round pick deserves more than 8 carries. when he gets over 10 carries a game his ypc average skyrockets

otherwise he was just an expensive short yardage guy

You could be onto something there...that's what scares me..I mean that was the knock on Bush in some ways ...and he has more yards on a losing team this year...
strato is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 04:00 PM   #9
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Wherever I lay my hat
Posts: 2,967
Originally Posted by strato View Post
I think if Ingram was getting more he would get more..
A sort of circular truth there.
UK_WhoDat is offline  
Old 11-14-2011, 04:38 PM   #10
Site Donor 2014
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 11,209
Blog Entries: 43
Ingram is a rookie, and I don't think running backs will ever put up massive yards as a Saints while Payton is coach. Their role is to support the passing game.

Going into the game Atlanta had a good run defense and their secondary was "suspect" at best. Payton and Brees were going to throw all day long.

There's just isn't enough info for me to know whether he's a "bust" "expensive pick" "second coming of Deuce" etc. We're about to hit the most important stretch of the season. Let's see what happens.

As for Ivory - bs story or not, injury or no injury, I want to see him in uniform and playing for consecutive games through the end of the season before I make a judgement about him.
Danno and papz like this.

Like blackandgold.com on facebook follow us on Twitter
Halo is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://blackandgold.com/saints/38141-you-know.html
Posted By For Type Date Hits
You know, This thread Refback 11-14-2011 02:49 PM 3


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:18 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2013 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts