Draft pick(s) for Reggie?

Mardigras9 · 11-15-2011, 10:42 PM

Bush has had two good games in a row. What time is it.............it's injury time.

Danno · 11-16-2011, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

True, but in that case other teams could've made offers to Bush, which could've ended up (artificially) increasing his market worth, which in turn could've caused him to sign elsewhere or Miami having to offer him more contract-wise than the calculated worth of a given draft pick is to that franchise.

So, all in all, I think it was a good deal for MIA as well as for the Saints. And I think that if there's someone who lost in that deal it would be Bush himself, but that is hard to estimate because he never entered the FA market and so we can never know what his market value would've been.

If you look at it from that standpoint - the Saints franchise owe gratitude toward Bush for handling the situation as he did, nevermind what he has said since in the media.

Thats my point. Bush had all the leverage to get the most money he could, and he still could have chosen the Dolphins if he wanted to.
Again, we stole that pick, with a Bush assist. We were lucky to get anything at all for him.

FinSaint · 11-16-2011, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats my point. Bush had all the leverage to get the most money he could, and he still could have chosen the Dolphins if he wanted to.
Again, we stole that pick, with a Bush assist. We were lucky to get anything at all for him.

Yes, you are correct, but that doesn't change the fact that MIA couldn't know that for sure, and we can't know for sure if MIA was really where Bush wanted to go above any other potential suitors.

They wanted Bush, probably more for his star power than actual ability, and giving up a ST player and a possible draft pick in order to secure the rights to negotiate with Bush without any outside interference was in all likelihood a good decision on their part, which may have actually saved them money or other commodities.

Therefore, I wouldn't say that the Saints "stole" the pick - if there will be any in the end - because it was payment for a service rendered as I described above.

SmashMouth · 11-16-2011, 11:02 AM

It could be worse for him.... he could have gone to Philly .... LOL

Maybe there is some obscure clause upping the ante to a first round pick ....

halloween 65 · 11-16-2011, 11:18 AM

If you count Sproles who took his place,{and locker, ha, ha.} we got Amaya for the trade and another pick,to me thats 3 for 1, I can live with that.

SAINTstunna · 11-16-2011, 11:29 AM

I actually expected him to have a good season because of him playing with a "chip on his shoulder." Reggie Bust has been handed everything on a platter his whole life.

biloxi-indian · 11-16-2011, 11:44 AM

According to the AP at the time of the trade;

"The Dolphins completed a trade for Bush on Thursday by negotiating a new contract with him. Saints coach Sean Payton confirmed the deal, which sends reserve safety Jonathon Amaya(notes) to New Orleans and also involves an exchange of undisclosed draft picks."

Dolphins trade for Reggie Bush - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

So it appears the Saints and Miami will exchange draft picks most likely (late round picks) based on Bush's production in Miami.

st thomas · 11-16-2011, 11:46 AM

who are yall takin bout? lol

homerj07 · 11-16-2011, 12:28 PM

WHo cares - Anyting we get (with the additon of Sproles) is better than Reggie ever was.

I dont think he handled it well - I think he acted like a spoiled child (which he basically is)

AlaskaSaints · 11-16-2011, 12:33 PM

Somewhat depends on how crappy the Dolphins finish the season. The crappier, the better for us as they will be in the higher picks. Right?

Reggie gets touchdowns but he can't alone product wins.

Alaska

11-15-2011, 10:42 PM	#11
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Bush has had two good games in a row. What time is it.............it's injury time. Memnoch_TP, QBREES9 and AlaskaSaints like this.

11-16-2011, 08:55 AM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by FinSaint True, but in that case other teams could've made offers to Bush, which could've ended up (artificially) increasing his market worth, which in turn could've caused him to sign elsewhere or Miami having to offer him more contract-wise than the calculated worth of a given draft pick is to that franchise. So, all in all, I think it was a good deal for MIA as well as for the Saints. And I think that if there's someone who lost in that deal it would be Bush himself, but that is hard to estimate because he never entered the FA market and so we can never know what his market value would've been. If you look at it from that standpoint - the Saints franchise owe gratitude toward Bush for handling the situation as he did, nevermind what he has said since in the media. Thats my point. Bush had all the leverage to get the most money he could, and he still could have chosen the Dolphins if he wanted to. Again, we stole that pick, with a Bush assist. We were lucky to get anything at all for him.

11-16-2011, 10:33 AM	#13
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Danno Thats my point. Bush had all the leverage to get the most money he could, and he still could have chosen the Dolphins if he wanted to. Again, we stole that pick, with a Bush assist. We were lucky to get anything at all for him. Yes, you are correct, but that doesn't change the fact that MIA couldn't know that for sure, and we can't know for sure if MIA was really where Bush wanted to go above any other potential suitors. They wanted Bush, probably more for his star power than actual ability, and giving up a ST player and a possible draft pick in order to secure the rights to negotiate with Bush without any outside interference was in all likelihood a good decision on their part, which may have actually saved them money or other commodities. Therefore, I wouldn't say that the Saints "stole" the pick - if there will be any in the end - because it was payment for a service rendered as I described above.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,127 Blog Entries: 29	It could be worse for him.... he could have gone to Philly .... LOL Maybe there is some obscure clause upping the ante to a first round pick ....

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SAINTstunna 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SACRAMENTO, CA Posts: 249 Blog Entries: 9	I actually expected him to have a good season because of him playing with a "chip on his shoulder." Reggie Bust has been handed everything on a platter his whole life.

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biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	According to the AP at the time of the trade; "The Dolphins completed a trade for Bush on Thursday by negotiating a new contract with him. Saints coach Sean Payton confirmed the deal, which sends reserve safety Jonathon Amaya(notes) to New Orleans and also involves an exchange of undisclosed draft picks." Dolphins trade for Reggie Bush - NFL - Yahoo! Sports So it appears the Saints and Miami will exchange draft picks most likely (late round picks) based on Bush's production in Miami.

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homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	WHo cares - Anyting we get (with the additon of Sproles) is better than Reggie ever was. I dont think he handled it well - I think he acted like a spoiled child (which he basically is)

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AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Somewhat depends on how crappy the Dolphins finish the season. The crappier, the better for us as they will be in the higher picks. Right? Reggie gets touchdowns but he can't alone product wins. Alaska