Saints Grades At the Bye

11-15-2011, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

I give our record, 7-3 leading the Division, an "A"

Offense - B+ (A if we could run the ball)
Defense - C/C- for obvious reasons
Special Teams - A (except for that one runback by the Packers for a TD)
Coaching - B+ (Gregg Williams brought the average down)

First thing that came to my mind when I thought about grading them.

Euphoria · 11-15-2011, 02:36 PM

Over all its a B or ya fooling yourselves.

Offense B
Defense F
Special Teams A
Overall B

Defense isn't getting any better. A win is a win but they still play the same in a win or a loss.

Our season is going to end like last years.

papz · 11-15-2011, 02:37 PM

Right on cue.

Cruize · 11-15-2011, 02:38 PM

Only Saints fans can give the defense more than a D. I think Williams is trying too hard to create something and to outsmart the other teams. Line up in man and vary from that in more subtle ways. All of the Saints CB's are good in man coverage. I would like to see them jump a route on occasion. Coming up to the line and running in the other direction into zone isn't working. Showing the all out blitz before the snap isn't working. If the Saints drop in zone, it's an easy underneath or over the middle play. If they blitz, it's a quick slant or out. If I can figure the defense out, it's real easy for a NFL coach and QB to be prepared for it.

strato · 11-15-2011, 02:44 PM

Offense- B
Defense- C
Special Teams-A-
Coaching -B+

Fans a D-

halloween 65 · 11-15-2011, 03:07 PM

Overall-B
Offense- B
Defense-C- I am being generous here.
ST's- A-
I am a Defense freak, I love to watch hand hitting, skull crushing defenses play, to the point you say "Damn what a shot. I expect our defense to be that defense in every way, not the way we have been playing. Every where, from the news to the analists to all of us, I know our D has really good players, I'm starting to wonder if they are ever going to show up. That is what I am so pi$$ed about. We are getting laughed at by every one, who wants to be laughed at. Not me.

Supertek · 11-15-2011, 03:42 PM

Overall B like most.
I have a hard time thinking St. Louis was not a bookie game, hope that is not the case bet it sure seems that way with some of these scores.

Danno · 11-15-2011, 04:04 PM

Offense - B Plus,
A+ passing game
C+ run game

Defense - D
Weak front seven but a stong back 4.
Inconsistent

Special Teams B
Return units - Good
Coverage units - Good

CantonLegend · 11-15-2011, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by xan

I give the O a B and the D a C.

The O-line can't run block and can't deal with athletic DE's. The Offensive Coordinator has no clue what a real run play is supposed to look like.

The Defense has inexplicable lapses of cohesion, are oblivious to the cutback, and can't tackle bait. What's with the DB's playing 10 yards off a receiver??

Why on earth does anybody think we CAN'T run the ball? We are averaging 4.6 ypc and have the best short yardage and 3rd down backs in the league

Being 8th in the league in ypc average is meaningless when we are 23rd in the league in attempts at 25 rushes a game

Nobody should complain about our line or our running backs...it's just plain ignorance

papz · 11-15-2011, 05:22 PM

Tell us how you really feel why don't you.

As great as you think they've been, there has been deficiencies and consistency issues. One could say to completely ignore it, would be just plain ignorance as well.

11-15-2011, 02:33 PM	#11
Threaded by papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by 44Champs I give our record, 7-3 leading the Division, an "A" Offense - B+ (A if we could run the ball) Defense - C/C- for obvious reasons Special Teams - A (except for that one runback by the Packers for a TD) Coaching - B+ (Gregg Williams brought the average down) First thing that came to my mind when I thought about grading them.
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11-15-2011, 02:37 PM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Right on cue. Danno and RockyMountainSaint like this.

11-15-2011, 02:38 PM	#14
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,452	Only Saints fans can give the defense more than a D. I think Williams is trying too hard to create something and to outsmart the other teams. Line up in man and vary from that in more subtle ways. All of the Saints CB's are good in man coverage. I would like to see them jump a route on occasion. Coming up to the line and running in the other direction into zone isn't working. Showing the all out blitz before the snap isn't working. If the Saints drop in zone, it's an easy underneath or over the middle play. If they blitz, it's a quick slant or out. If I can figure the defense out, it's real easy for a NFL coach and QB to be prepared for it.
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11-15-2011, 05:06 PM	#19
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by xan I give the O a B and the D a C. The O-line can't run block and can't deal with athletic DE's. The Offensive Coordinator has no clue what a real run play is supposed to look like. The Defense has inexplicable lapses of cohesion, are oblivious to the cutback, and can't tackle bait. What's with the DB's playing 10 yards off a receiver?? Why on earth does anybody think we CAN'T run the ball? We are averaging 4.6 ypc and have the best short yardage and 3rd down backs in the league Being 8th in the league in ypc average is meaningless when we are 23rd in the league in attempts at 25 rushes a game Nobody should complain about our line or our running backs...it's just plain ignorance

11-15-2011, 05:22 PM	#20
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Tell us how you really feel why don't you. As great as you think they've been, there has been deficiencies and consistency issues. One could say to completely ignore it, would be just plain ignorance as well. saintfan and Danno like this.

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11-15-2011, 02:36 PM	#12
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Over all its a B or ya fooling yourselves. Offense B Defense F Special Teams A Overall B Defense isn't getting any better. A win is a win but they still play the same in a win or a loss. Our season is going to end like last years.

11-15-2011, 02:44 PM	#15
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	Offense- B Defense- C Special Teams-A- Coaching -B+ Fans a D-

11-15-2011, 03:07 PM	#16
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Overall-B Offense- B Defense-C- I am being generous here. ST's- A- I am a Defense freak, I love to watch hand hitting, skull crushing defenses play, to the point you say "Damn what a shot. I expect our defense to be that defense in every way, not the way we have been playing. Every where, from the news to the analists to all of us, I know our D has really good players, I'm starting to wonder if they are ever going to show up. That is what I am so pi$$ed about. We are getting laughed at by every one, who wants to be laughed at. Not me.

11-15-2011, 03:42 PM	#17
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Overall B like most. I have a hard time thinking St. Louis was not a bookie game, hope that is not the case bet it sure seems that way with some of these scores.

11-15-2011, 04:04 PM	#18
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Offense - B Plus, A+ passing game C+ run game Defense - D Weak front seven but a stong back 4. Inconsistent Special Teams B Return units - Good Coverage units - Good

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