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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz What's ironic is that Tebow is starting out his career much like Orton. Orton was a terrible passer but yet he just kept winning games... ugly. Yeah but ultimately it never lasts. Whenever a player with ...

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Old 11-18-2011, 01:44 PM   #1
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What's ironic is that Tebow is starting out his career much like Orton. Orton was a terrible passer but yet he just kept winning games... ugly.
Yeah but ultimately it never lasts. Whenever a player with an unorthodox style like Tebow is introduced to a sport it takes awhile for teams to figure them out, but once they do it is largely over.

Vince Young's career started out on a tear and look where it lead. I believe Michael Vick had a great rookie campaign, then it slowly deteriorated. Hell even his first year back after jail he caught everyone by surprise again, then it's back to the status quo.

You could say the same thing for other sports as well. Remember that Nomo character in baseball years ago who had an unorthodox style and was unhittable for awhile? But after a month or two hitters adjusted to his style and the rest is history.

IMO, the Broncos have been fortunate over the last few weeks and Tebow has definitely had some heroics, and everyone is buying in. But you just can't sustain weekly comeback victories in this league. Sooner or later the odds are going to catch up with Timmy, and when the fans realize that even with his amazing comebacks they won't be better than .500, the coaches will have to sit him (or get 'sat' themselves).

I'm happy for the kid to have beaten the odds thus far, but I have to be honest, I'm getting a little sick of seeing a Tebow prayer every five seconds. We get it dude, you believe in an invisible man in the sky. I almost wish another player would start praising the devil after a TD or something just to illustrate how ridiculous it is.
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I'm happy for the kid to have beaten the odds thus far, but I have to be honest, I'm getting a little sick of seeing a Tebow prayer every five seconds. We get it dude, you believe in an invisible man in the sky. I almost wish another player would start praising the devil after a TD or something just to illustrate how ridiculous it is.
That's pretty funny... even though you probably didn't mean for it to be.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:07 PM   #3
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That's pretty funny... even though you probably didn't mean for it to be.
I just think that the NFL is the wrong place to make religious statements. And to be clear, I'm Catholic and go to church myself, but when you reach the point to where you have to make your own personal prayer a spectacle during sporting events it has reached the point of absurdity.

I agree it is pretty funny. I honestly can't think of how one could visibly worship the devil, maybe point to the ground and snarl? If Tebow's career fizzles out are we to assume that Lucifer has defeated him?

To illustrate the absurdity, could you imagine if Usama Young starts visibly worshipping Allah after each pick 6? He crosses the goalline, drops down to his knees in the endzone, starts bowing and chanting Allah Akbar (assumedly pointing toward Mecca, maybe he has a compass?).

Then, all of the Saints players gather around him in the endzone and start bowing, kneeling, yelling 'Allah Akbar!'. Then the camera pans to the sideline again after the PAT and Young is still bowing and chanting 'Allah Akbar' as the announcers fawn over him.

Save it for church dude, its embarrassing.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:42 PM   #4
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To illustrate the absurdity, could you imagine if Usama Young starts visibly worshipping Allah after each pick 6? He crosses the goalline, drops down to his knees in the endzone...
Oh no, you cant do that! That will get you a flag and a 15 yard penalty assessed on the kickoff! Just ask the player who dropped to his knees and saluted ut troops last week.

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That's pretty funny... even though you probably didn't mean for it to be.
I want to see it taken one step further. If someone came out and said "Yeah, the drug tests never caught me, but I have been taking steroids." what is gonna happen? BAM, suspended.

So if a player asks for and truly believes that they received divine outside assistance from an all powerful deity... I mean, how is that not cheating?
How can the other team overcome you invoking the power of an all mighty god? Steroids have nothing on that. So, every time a player gives a point up to heaven and gives the glory to god, they should get suspended for cheating.


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I honestly can't think of how one could visibly worship the devil, maybe point to the ground and snarl?
No, point to the ground and give the Devil Sign!

papz and strato like this.

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -- Douglas Adams.
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So if a player asks for and truly believes that they received divine outside assistance from an all powerful deity... I mean, how is that not cheating?
How can the other team overcome you invoking the power of an all mighty god? Steroids have nothing on that. So, every time a player gives a point up to heaven and gives the glory to god, they should get suspended for cheating.

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