IMO, Saints should play the veteran RBs & let Ingram watch and learn

strato · 11-26-2011, 06:26 PM

If Ingram keeps running into the backs of the O-Lineman...then sit him and let P.T... Ivory and Sproles run...we aren't jacking around it crunchtime!..Not that the boy won't be good..just we need production now!

AlaskaSaints · 11-26-2011, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by strato

If Ingram keeps running into the backs of the O-Lineman...then sit him and let P.T... Ivory and Sproles run...we aren't jacking around it crunchtime!..Not that the boy won't be good..just we need production.

Strato, you and I get along JUST FINE!! LOL

Hurricane on me,

Alaska

subguy · 11-27-2011, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Strato, you and I get along JUST FINE!! LOL

Hurricane on me,

Alaska

When you two get done with your hug and ground yourself for a second, please tell me what logic it is to give Ivory the nod over Ingram. Keep in mind I like all 4 of our backs and am not enamored with any one of them.

strato · 11-27-2011, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

When you two get done with your hug and ground yourself for a second, please tell me what logic it is to give Ivory the nod over Ingram. Keep in mind I like all 4 of our backs and am not enamored with any one of them.

Its easy my man...here is some simple math for you to digest oh and a bonus vid for your enjoyment..

Chris Ivory stats..

Games played 14

Att Yds avg long

158 801 5.1 55

Mark Ingram
Att Yds Avg long
93 340 3.7 20

Chris Ivory Highlights - YouTube

Is this logical enough?

jeanpierre · 11-28-2011, 12:44 AM

We spent the pick(s); let 'em play and let the chips fall where they may...

There is enough film on Ivory and PT if someone wants to trade, most teams are picking up the Saints' que and getting rookie FA or late round picks (Giants got Da'Rel Scott and his 4.3 in Round 7!

Don't expect a trade of PT, though the contract is a little high, it's not that bad...

Ivory would yield more and I'd rather keep PT's experience...

CantonLegend · 11-28-2011, 09:52 AM

ingram is just better than ivory and pierre

theres no other way around it. after only 10 games we know who our best running back is

with the game on the line which running back will get the ball? ingram already did game 1.....hes been our 4th qtr and short yardage back all season

that means that the coaching staff already has the most faith in him to get the job done when we need it

jeanpierre · 11-28-2011, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

ingram is just better than ivory and pierre

theres no other way around it. after only 10 games we know who our best running back is

with the game on the line which running back will get the ball? ingram already did game 1.....hes been our 4th qtr and short yardage back all season

that means that the coaching staff already has the most faith in him to get the job done when we need it

Done.

SaintPauly · 11-28-2011, 11:01 AM

It's like trying to pick your favorite kid here... If Ivory could stay healthy, and play the way we know he can, we don't even draft Ingram? Just a thought.... I love Ivory, but I think you gotta go with Ingram. Ivory came into the season, on the edge of IR... Again....

On another note, I saw yesterday, that college career stat comparisons, Ingram actually had better numbers than Trent Richardson... That's pretty darn good....

darstep · 11-28-2011, 12:03 PM

PT should be getting the bulk of the carries.
Week 11, and I'm still waiting for Ingram to break it outside and maximize a run.
He's still running up the backs of his blockers and losing forward momentum.
He's still getting hit square in the chest and driven back at the end of his runs.
I think he'll be OK, but until then, PT should be getting the bulk of the carries.
PT follows his blockers better and finishes his runs going forward, not backward.
Isn't it great having to make a choice between good, gooder, and better?

Rugby Saint II · 11-28-2011, 01:52 PM

The highlight reel on Ivory was awesome. I hope the other teams around the league get a copy of it because his inability to stay on the field has lowered my expectations. I love PT and what he brings to the game. Sproles has been the best pick up of the off season. Ingram gets the tough yards and has a very high ceiling. Ivory runs like a beast. Tough problem to have. Remember we drafted Ingram before we brought in Sproles to fill Reggie's spot.

11-26-2011, 06:26 PM	#11
strato Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: "Little Ole Town in Tejas" Posts: 7,586	If Ingram keeps running into the backs of the O-Lineman...then sit him and let P.T... Ivory and Sproles run...we aren't jacking around it crunchtime!..Not that the boy won't be good..just we need production now! darstep and AlaskaSaints like this.
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11-26-2011, 06:37 PM	#12
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Originally Posted by strato If Ingram keeps running into the backs of the O-Lineman...then sit him and let P.T... Ivory and Sproles run...we aren't jacking around it crunchtime!..Not that the boy won't be good..just we need production. Strato, you and I get along JUST FINE!! LOL Hurricane on me, Alaska

11-27-2011, 08:22 AM	#13
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Strato, you and I get along JUST FINE!! LOL Hurricane on me, Alaska When you two get done with your hug and ground yourself for a second, please tell me what logic it is to give Ivory the nod over Ingram. Keep in mind I like all 4 of our backs and am not enamored with any one of them.

11-28-2011, 12:44 AM	#15
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	We spent the pick(s); let 'em play and let the chips fall where they may... There is enough film on Ivory and PT if someone wants to trade, most teams are picking up the Saints' que and getting rookie FA or late round picks (Giants got Da'Rel Scott and his 4.3 in Round 7! Don't expect a trade of PT, though the contract is a little high, it's not that bad... Ivory would yield more and I'd rather keep PT's experience... Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-28-2011, 09:52 AM	#16
CantonLegend 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 2,685 Blog Entries: 2	ingram is just better than ivory and pierre theres no other way around it. after only 10 games we know who our best running back is with the game on the line which running back will get the ball? ingram already did game 1.....hes been our 4th qtr and short yardage back all season that means that the coaching staff already has the most faith in him to get the job done when we need it jeanpierre likes this.

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11-28-2011, 10:04 AM	#17
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by CantonLegend ingram is just better than ivory and pierre theres no other way around it. after only 10 games we know who our best running back is with the game on the line which running back will get the ball? ingram already did game 1.....hes been our 4th qtr and short yardage back all season that means that the coaching staff already has the most faith in him to get the job done when we need it Done.

11-28-2011, 11:01 AM	#18
SaintPauly Senior Citizen Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gulfport, MS Posts: 3,180 Blog Entries: 1	It's like trying to pick your favorite kid here... If Ivory could stay healthy, and play the way we know he can, we don't even draft Ingram? Just a thought.... I love Ivory, but I think you gotta go with Ingram. Ivory came into the season, on the edge of IR... Again.... On another note, I saw yesterday, that college career stat comparisons, Ingram actually had better numbers than Trent Richardson... That's pretty darn good....

11-28-2011, 12:03 PM	#19
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	PT should be getting the bulk of the carries. Week 11, and I'm still waiting for Ingram to break it outside and maximize a run. He's still running up the backs of his blockers and losing forward momentum. He's still getting hit square in the chest and driven back at the end of his runs. I think he'll be OK, but until then, PT should be getting the bulk of the carries. PT follows his blockers better and finishes his runs going forward, not backward. Isn't it great having to make a choice between good, gooder, and better? strato likes this.
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11-28-2011, 01:52 PM	#20
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	The highlight reel on Ivory was awesome. I hope the other teams around the league get a copy of it because his inability to stay on the field has lowered my expectations. I love PT and what he brings to the game. Sproles has been the best pick up of the off season. Ingram gets the tough yards and has a very high ceiling. Ivory runs like a beast. Tough problem to have. Remember we drafted Ingram before we brought in Sproles to fill Reggie's spot.

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