Patrick Robinson....
 

Is it just me or can anyone else call the play before it happens.... I had at least 2-3 moments of "vision" last night where before the snap, I looked at the wife and said "Robinson... burnt on this play".. Bingo! "Going to Robinson and they are going to get at least 15 yards"... Bingo! First down.

Besides the dreads, he reminds me of Mike McKenzie... Hot or cold... Great play or absolutely burnt.

Mark this.... When we play Green Bay for the NFC Championship game Rodgers is going to wear us out on that side.

I think we played adefense where we were trying to keep the plays in front of us and wait for mistakes by the Giants. Having said that what was up with his tackling?

I have no clue what is up with NFL tackling by Corners and safety's as a whole... That frikken spear attempt is not a tackle, and people keep getting hurt... Look at Troy Polamalu, he does the same thing and is hurt now because of it. It goes against any and every form tackle drill I have ever been through.

I think you got Robinson pegged just right. This is a weak spot for sure and he will and usually does get worked on badly. He does this when we are not preventing. Agreed the guy cannot tackle and looks out of place. Wo can step up in his place or how can he be replaced. I disagree with some of those calls on hits and if they are going to continue to make bad calls that should turn into a reviewable play. With the size and speed these guys are moving at it is almost impossible not to have your helment contact his body somewhere. Unless you spear someone directly in the back/chest ect. or blindside someone and hit him in the head with your helment the rest of these calls are BS to the max.

On most of them they D players are not leading with their helmet, when 500 lbs collides the helmet is going to make contact at some point... You have to be able to stiff arm someone to the ground to not make that sor tof contact... that would require hellacious arms and chest lol

All the corners played off their receivers by a good margin last night... even Greer. It wasn't just Robinson.

By playing "off their receiver"... I do not think you mean receiver 10 yards BEHIND Patrick.

Robinson and Porter both are weak at wrapping up. How many times have we seen the 5-6 pass in the flat go for 15-20 instead?

On run support both use the ole' bullfighter technique

Porter??? WTF. He's the most solid CB we have. He blows up screens to his side and gets past blockers to make a tackle for a loss.

Robinson I give you but Porter is a stud when he is on an island out there.

I personally think Greer is having an excellent season and might be the better of the two.

Though I was pretty sleepy, I can't remember any of our corners being burned that bad w/o it being a blown coverage from our safety. Mostly everything was kept in front of them from what I remember.

Porter hasn't played well this year at all. He was beaten by 5 yards on that fade last night.

Porter has regressed quite a bit the last two years. There's a good reason Robinson's the starter now.

I think Harper was telling him what he did wrong on that bomb where Harper and Jenkins both rush up in the box. Porter looked confused.

I'm not convinced that was either safetie's fault.

I'll give you that he had a good game yesterday, but I still think he misses too many tackles.
As for numbers, he has zero picks and 5-6 passes defended.

I was hoping Robinson and Porter would push each other more this year.

I have to blame the coaching on their play at conerback. Why are we giving the 8 yard cushion and then sitting back to wait for the play to come to us instead of attacking the play. No way our DB's are that slow that we can't jam them at the line.

Overall, fellas, we've got a great group of D-backs. Even Harper got run over last night.

The Giants scored one time too many for my comfort, but they are the Giants, led by Eli Manning. They are going to score.

Tackling will always be a problem, or so it seems. And that cushion that the corners are gifting must be a G.W. call or else it would be reduced.

Porter has more tackles than any other Saint, but he is missing a step or two from his peak year of 09-10.

Another potential interception bounced off (was it) Jenkins' chest. Wow.

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No it was Porter.

Yes, Robinson was horrible last night. The cushion I didn't like but I understood the reason behind it. It was the unwillingness to attack the play once it happened is what I really despised last night. It was freaking horrible. Porter was/is no better. And I agree with Danno in that the last 2 years have not been good to him.

Porter is actually SEVENTH in tackles, and usually his high tackles games are when we are getting lit up: Rams, ATL, GB. Th goose egg for picks is still there also.
I defended him early in the year, but now think he needs to really step it up

Thats because the D-Tackles are not getting them.

I don't think any linebacker or defensive back wants any of Jacobs after he has gotten up a head of steam. Harper was annihilated by him.

We were up big when they finally got one through, and if there was any giants I would have wanted to have a good day and my team still win it was Victor Cruz. ( he's on my fantasy team, sry!!!) But when Harper ( seasoned veteran ) and Robinson ( often picked on ) bit on the run they looked like two clowns at the three ring circus!!! When Cruz caught the second TD it got me to thinkin " Where the hell is Johnny Patrick"!!!!

When you blitz 70% of the time your CBs will usually be back to prevent the deep play...

Good thing they practiced interceptions this week. :doh:

I wish they would all hit like abadabado or whatever his name is, talk about a hit, that made me proud,15 yards or not. I like this guy! I hope he gets alot more playing time.

He shined in training camp too. He could be a solid player down the road.

It's by design whether we like it or not.

I think our entire line is getting no pressure BECAUSE of the cushion we are giving. How can we get the QB when he always has a short pass? With the exception of Greer, the rest of the db's have zero play recognition.

I also can't stand when we just stand there and wait for the receiver to come to us. That s**t makes me nuts!!

When the score was already decides, the Giants turn in a lot of "junk" yards. We cares if they get a ton of yards and don't score. You guys are nit picking. GW calls the defense.

Poor tackling is going to be the bane of this team

Glad to hear someone else say this. I have always felt that the numbers or the final score didn't always tell the story of how a game went. I'll take a defense that let's the offense move up and down the field but holds them to FG's or no score over one that lets the offense move at will right into the endzone. When the game is out of reach most offenses are going to rack up yardage just to try and make the score respectable. So we gave up 400 yards in the air. We won the game by 25 pts. I'll take that every day and twice on Sunday. :bng:

I hear what you and others are saying. Only one problem..what happens when our offense isn't ON?

I'll tell you what happens..we lose to the Rams..that's what. This is what worries me the most. Do I really give a crap that Eli had 400 passing yards, NO. We won, that's what matters BUT we have seen this type of zone all year. Winning, losing whatever. It hasn't changed.

I am not going to just sit back and say, we won the game woohoo and then come back and whine when we lose for running the same scheme that we have all year. It's all good and great when the offense is full steam ahead but when it's not are you going to come back and act like you don't understand why our defense let us down?

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Hey Robinson... Nice FG block attempt.

You got burnt again buddy.

And again Burnt for 57 yards.....

I was logging on to start a thread...
"Remind me why we have Patrick Robinson again????"

This guy can't cover... can't tackle... can't jump routes and intercept... send him to Philly

cut him, i dont want a draft pick for him, he sucks

Poor scheme. Jailbreak blitz with no safety help that was telegraphed. He deserves blame on that long pass, but that was a piss poor play.

No, I'm going to ask why our offense let us down. The defense has made multiple plays when we needed them to this year. All everyone sees are the yards given up and the big plays at inopportune times. We're 10-3 and on the verge of a division title. Once again, i'll take that all day every day and twice on Sunday's. ;)

open field tackles are not easy for anyone

especially corners trying to make a play on the ball and then trying to wrap up right away too

that was porter and robinsons biggest knocks coming out of college tho. they are aggressive but struggle making open field tackles

having said that, the style of defense we play kept the game close and only a few plays here and there really allowed the titans to move the ball.

almost every play we saw locker roll out because the coverage and pressure was so good that he had to create more time for his guys to get open.