Jimmy Graham catch somebody Please explain!!!!

Danno · 12-11-2011, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Was a TD. Heel touched down. Well before any notional toe touch of a blade of grass.

Some will also argue the other touched down before all that too.

A part of the foot isn't the entire foot.

The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it.

It was the right call.

Halo · 12-11-2011, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

A part of the foot isn't the entire foot.

The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it.

It was the right call.

What about when you touch your toes on a catch? That's part of the foot isn't it?

Danno · 12-11-2011, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

What about when you touch your toes on a catch? That's part of the foot isn't it?

Yes it is, and if any other part of the foot land out of bounds its an incomplete pass

ScottF · 12-11-2011, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

A part of the foot isn't the entire foot.

The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it.

It was the right call.

what about the toe drag? that's acceptable, and even less than a heel

breesfan27 · 12-11-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

what about the toe drag? that's acceptable, and even less than a heel

I don't get this. I've seen guys win TDs by dragging the toe, but dragging the heel is not considered a TD?? These rules get stupider every year.

Halo · 12-11-2011, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by breesfan27

I don't get this. I've seen guys win TDs by dragging the toe, but dragging the heel is not considered a TD?? These rules get stupider every year.

Becky, I'm with you. It definitely needs clarification. I agree with both sides of the argument overall but I'm still confused with the logic behind it NOT being a catch.

UK_WhoDat · 12-11-2011, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

A part of the foot isn't the entire foot.

The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it.

It was the right call.

Wow! I would like to see the NFL rule book here.

Danno · 12-11-2011, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Wow! I would like to see the NFL rule book here.

If your 2nd foot lands OB, its an incomplete pass. This was a no-brainer. It was the right call no question.

UK_WhoDat · 12-11-2011, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

If your 2nd foot lands OB, its an incomplete pass. This was a no-brainer. It was the right call no question.

My contention is that the heel of the 2nd foot touched inbounds pre any tippy toe of that foot out of bounds. But there is now an implication there has to a complete foot inbounds (when I thought that tips of both feet inbounds always counted as TDs)

Danno · 12-11-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

My contention is that the heel of the 2nd foot touched inbounds pre any tippy toe of that foot out of bounds. But there is now an implication there has to a complete foot inbounds (when I thought that tips of both feet inbounds always counted as TDs)

Its similar to a jump ball at the back of the endzone. Even if both toes come in bounds, but the heels hit OB, its an incomplete pass.

I am positive that that was the right call IMO.

12-11-2011, 04:23 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Was a TD. Heel touched down. Well before any notional toe touch of a blade of grass. Some will also argue the other touched down before all that too. A part of the foot isn't the entire foot. The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it. It was the right call. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

12-11-2011, 04:24 PM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,895 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by Danno A part of the foot isn't the entire foot. The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it. It was the right call. What about when you touch your toes on a catch? That's part of the foot isn't it?

12-11-2011, 04:25 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by Halo What about when you touch your toes on a catch? That's part of the foot isn't it? Yes it is, and if any other part of the foot land out of bounds its an incomplete pass RockyMountainSaint likes this.

12-11-2011, 04:25 PM	#4
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by Danno A part of the foot isn't the entire foot. The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it. It was the right call. what about the toe drag? that's acceptable, and even less than a heel UK_WhoDat likes this.

12-11-2011, 08:55 PM	#5
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by ScottF what about the toe drag? that's acceptable, and even less than a heel I don't get this. I've seen guys win TDs by dragging the toe, but dragging the heel is not considered a TD?? These rules get stupider every year.

12-11-2011, 09:15 PM	#6
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,895 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by breesfan27 I don't get this. I've seen guys win TDs by dragging the toe, but dragging the heel is not considered a TD?? These rules get stupider every year. Becky, I'm with you. It definitely needs clarification. I agree with both sides of the argument overall but I'm still confused with the logic behind it NOT being a catch.

12-11-2011, 04:29 PM	#7
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Originally Posted by Danno A part of the foot isn't the entire foot. The entire foot has to touch inbounds, not simply part of it. It was the right call. Wow! I would like to see the NFL rule book here.

12-11-2011, 04:32 PM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Wow! I would like to see the NFL rule book here. If your 2nd foot lands OB, its an incomplete pass. This was a no-brainer. It was the right call no question.

12-11-2011, 04:40 PM	#9
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,001	Originally Posted by Danno If your 2nd foot lands OB, its an incomplete pass. This was a no-brainer. It was the right call no question. My contention is that the heel of the 2nd foot touched inbounds pre any tippy toe of that foot out of bounds. But there is now an implication there has to a complete foot inbounds (when I thought that tips of both feet inbounds always counted as TDs)

12-11-2011, 04:49 PM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat My contention is that the heel of the 2nd foot touched inbounds pre any tippy toe of that foot out of bounds. But there is now an implication there has to a complete foot inbounds (when I thought that tips of both feet inbounds always counted as TDs) Its similar to a jump ball at the back of the endzone. Even if both toes come in bounds, but the heels hit OB, its an incomplete pass. I am positive that that was the right call IMO.

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