The debate about MVP

saintfan · 01-04-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Personally I couldn't care less about who wins the NFL MVP.

Generally speaking I agree with this, but Drew is so damned deserving, and he's already been robbed for MVP multiple times.

He'd never say so, but I'm sure it's something he'd like to achieve.

pherein · 01-04-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Generally speaking I agree with this, but Drew is so damned deserving, and he's already been robbed for MVP multiple times.

He'd never say so, but I'm sure it's something he'd like to achieve.

Yep, its amazing when they look back and see that Drew was the best overall QB for so long and never got MVP. It should shame the the voters. Think , if we win our 2nd SB and he still doesn't have a MVP after dominating the Stats sense 2006? That makes the voters look very stupid.

Danno · 01-04-2012, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Yep, its amazing when they look back and see that Drew was the best overall QB for so long and never got MVP. It should shame the the voters. Think , if we win our 2nd SB and he still doesn't have a MVP after dominating the Stats sense 2006? That makes the voters look very stupid.

Has he really been the best? I think Manning and Brady might have something to say about that.

saintfan · 01-04-2012, 08:08 PM

Brees would have three MVP awards by now if he played for a Big Market team or, for that matter, any team on the East Coast.

Mardigras9 · 01-04-2012, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Brees would have three MVP awards by now if he played for a Big Market team or, for that matter, any team on the East Coast.

This is soooo true, but thank goodness he doesn't.

|Mitch| · 01-04-2012, 08:40 PM

3 MVP awards and we wouldn't be able to afford him this offseason...

Halo · 01-04-2012, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

3 MVP awards and we wouldn't be able to afford him this offseason...

True but NOT affording Drew ISN'T an option.

SaintsBro · 01-04-2012, 09:18 PM

This is what often gets overlooked: the pundits and media types did not pick Brees right out the gate to be a success: he just happened, when he wasn't supposed to happen. Therefore they will continue to overlook him for MVP, and make these inane "needs an asterix" type comments, and will even continue to slyly leave him out of conversations about great QBs where he obviously should be included....because acknowledging Brees' accomplishments, does not reflect the spotlight back on them, the media, where they feel it belongs.

What do Brady, Manning and Rodgers all have in common among them, that Brees does not. I'll tell you: they all began their careers in such a fashion that the media was able to jump right on board, after their first impressive year, and say "Look how great they are! We told you so first!" But Brees' early career is muddled; the media and sports writers can't say to the public that they knew it, and were his champion all along; they can't say they were "right" about Brees, because they were ALL clearly dead wrong about him and wrote him off. So I say that Brees will NEVER get the accolades from the big media complex, the kind of praise that they give to Brady and Rodgers and Manning. Because his story is not part of THEIR story, where the spotlight gets reflected back onto them, the media.

TheKillerBs · 01-04-2012, 09:34 PM

Here's the way I see it. in 2009 Brees lost the MVP to Manning, even tho he had better stats. They tried to make up for this by giving him "Offensive Player of the Year". So, why not do the same thing this year? Give Brees his due and let him have the MVP. Rodgers can be Offensive Player of the Year.

Also, I wonder if Sproles will get any MVP votes. He did have the most all-purpose yards of anyone EVER. That's pretty valuable...

foreverfan · 01-04-2012, 09:39 PM

Drew Brees*

*Anyone who can make the Saints SB Champs is the QB of the Decade!

01-04-2012, 05:46 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by Danno Personally I couldn't care less about who wins the NFL MVP. Generally speaking I agree with this, but Drew is so damned deserving, and he's already been robbed for MVP multiple times. He'd never say so, but I'm sure it's something he'd like to achieve. Halo likes this.

01-04-2012, 06:26 PM	#2
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by saintfan Generally speaking I agree with this, but Drew is so damned deserving, and he's already been robbed for MVP multiple times. He'd never say so, but I'm sure it's something he'd like to achieve. Yep, its amazing when they look back and see that Drew was the best overall QB for so long and never got MVP. It should shame the the voters. Think , if we win our 2nd SB and he still doesn't have a MVP after dominating the Stats sense 2006? That makes the voters look very stupid.

01-04-2012, 06:30 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by pherein Yep, its amazing when they look back and see that Drew was the best overall QB for so long and never got MVP. It should shame the the voters. Think , if we win our 2nd SB and he still doesn't have a MVP after dominating the Stats sense 2006? That makes the voters look very stupid. Has he really been the best? I think Manning and Brady might have something to say about that.

01-04-2012, 08:08 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Brees would have three MVP awards by now if he played for a Big Market team or, for that matter, any team on the East Coast. pherein and WHO_DAT_CAT like this.

01-04-2012, 08:38 PM	#5
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Originally Posted by saintfan Brees would have three MVP awards by now if he played for a Big Market team or, for that matter, any team on the East Coast. This is soooo true, but thank goodness he doesn't.

01-04-2012, 08:40 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	3 MVP awards and we wouldn't be able to afford him this offseason... Halo and pherein like this.

01-04-2012, 08:42 PM	#7
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,907 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| 3 MVP awards and we wouldn't be able to afford him this offseason... True but NOT affording Drew ISN'T an option. pherein likes this.

01-04-2012, 09:18 PM	#8
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	This is what often gets overlooked: the pundits and media types did not pick Brees right out the gate to be a success: he just happened, when he wasn't supposed to happen. Therefore they will continue to overlook him for MVP, and make these inane "needs an asterix" type comments, and will even continue to slyly leave him out of conversations about great QBs where he obviously should be included....because acknowledging Brees' accomplishments, does not reflect the spotlight back on them, the media, where they feel it belongs. What do Brady, Manning and Rodgers all have in common among them, that Brees does not. I'll tell you: they all began their careers in such a fashion that the media was able to jump right on board, after their first impressive year, and say "Look how great they are! We told you so first!" But Brees' early career is muddled; the media and sports writers can't say to the public that they knew it, and were his champion all along; they can't say they were "right" about Brees, because they were ALL clearly dead wrong about him and wrote him off. So I say that Brees will NEVER get the accolades from the big media complex, the kind of praise that they give to Brady and Rodgers and Manning. Because his story is not part of THEIR story, where the spotlight gets reflected back onto them, the media.

01-04-2012, 09:34 PM	#9
TheKillerBs Thread Killer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hammond, LA Posts: 366	Here's the way I see it. in 2009 Brees lost the MVP to Manning, even tho he had better stats. They tried to make up for this by giving him "Offensive Player of the Year". So, why not do the same thing this year? Give Brees his due and let him have the MVP. Rodgers can be Offensive Player of the Year. Also, I wonder if Sproles will get any MVP votes. He did have the most all-purpose yards of anyone EVER. That's pretty valuable...

01-04-2012, 09:39 PM	#10
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Drew Brees* *Anyone who can make the Saints SB Champs is the QB of the Decade! TheKillerBs and pherein like this.

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