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xan 01-07-2012 10:36 PM

Lions Coach Schwartz blames officials
 
Crying after the game, Schwartz blames officials for lack of holding calls and quick whistles for part of the outcome.

Loser.

saintfan 01-07-2012 10:38 PM

Dude needs to just take it like a man and move on. He's got a good team. The Saints are a GREAT team. There's the difference.

Ashley 01-07-2012 10:38 PM

What else could he say? Nothing

|Mitch| 01-07-2012 10:40 PM

Wait a minute! He gets 2 turnovers and get nothing from them and he blames the officials?!

QBREES9 01-07-2012 10:41 PM

He's crazy.

ScottF 01-07-2012 10:41 PM

he got both scoring play challenges and no penalty for Fairley flipping PT
what a douche

Cruize 01-07-2012 10:42 PM

As a defensive coordinator turned head coach, he needs to look in the mirror.

Danno 01-07-2012 10:45 PM

He was not happy at all. I'll bet he will regret some of those comments tomorrow.

It was the heat of the battle, and he lost control.

Hmmm, maybe his players are a direct reflection of their coach

Saintswrath 01-07-2012 10:50 PM

I watched it and he was acting like his older brother beat him in his favorite video game

|Mitch| 01-07-2012 10:51 PM

I didn't see it; did he say thats the only reason they lost were the officials? or did he give us some credit too?

xan 01-07-2012 10:56 PM

To be somewhat fair, he did blame his corners for not catching the int's and their missing some 3rd down coversions - like the 3rd and 19 in the second half.

He did somewhat credit the Saints, indirectly, by saying that his team beat itself.

spkb25 01-07-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 365267)
Crying after the game, Schwartz blames officials for lack of holding calls and quick whistles for part of the outcome.

Loser.

Dude poor poor poor loser, sour grapes jerkl! I no longer want them to win under this *****

lumm0x 01-07-2012 11:13 PM

It might matter if he was still relevant in any way to the rest of the season. Bye Jim.

WhoDat!656 01-07-2012 11:17 PM

He has legitimate complaint with officials blowing whistle on Brees fumble.

Lions had ball and were gone to endzone when officials blew whistle; that missed TD could have been huge.

Tobias-Reiper 01-07-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 365304)
He has legitimate complaint with officials blowing whistle on Brees fumble.

Lions had ball and were gone to endzone when officials blew whistle; that missed TD could have been huge.


Nope.
The whistle blew before the ball even hit the ground. As a result, the entire Saints team stopped playing. If no whistle had blown, I doubt the entire Saints team would've just stood there and watch the Lions score.

xan 01-07-2012 11:20 PM

whistle blew before they recovered. Entire Saints team stopped at the whistle. It may have been a recovery, but not necessarily a td. I don't think you can blame the officials for that. It looked like an incomplete to everyone but the back judge.

Danno 01-07-2012 11:24 PM

They blew the call.

The whistle blew before Detroit recovered. It should have been Saints ball wherever the ball was when the whistle blew.

spkb25 01-07-2012 11:24 PM

Thought there were some tough calls, thought the refs, for the most part, did well

saintfan 01-07-2012 11:45 PM

When you allow the opposition to hang a 40 burger on you - or for that matter what could easily have been a 50 burger - you don't blame the refs in your post game presser if you want to be taken seriously.

OldMaid 01-07-2012 11:45 PM

I thought officials helped DetLion.

The Dude 01-07-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 365267)
Crying after the game, Schwartz blames officials for lack of holding calls and quick whistles for part of the outcome.

Loser.

This guy is the biggest dooshnoggin in the game. He's a thug who will not hold his team accountable for anything. I really hate that coach more than any other in the league.

SaintsRule11 01-07-2012 11:52 PM

In general there were very few holding calls. There were times when both teams were clearly guilty of holding. It all balances out. Jim Schwartz is a fool.

spkb25 01-07-2012 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 365324)
When you allow the opposition to hang a 40 burger on you - or for that matter what could easily have been a 50 burger - you don't blame the refs in your post game presser if you want to be taken seriously.

Right, and your d lets up the most yards in a post season game ever, yeah.

Shut it Jim.

Dude, I just had a Haslett flashback. His lies sound like the excuses Has used to make.

spkb25 01-07-2012 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsRule11 (Post 365329)
In general there were very few holding calls. There were times when both teams were clearly guilty of holding. It all balances out. Jim Schwartz is a fool.

He is a fool, and with those tight pants a possible homo

saintfan 01-07-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 365332)
He is a fool, and with those tight pants a possible homo

:hump: :doh:

dizzle88 01-08-2012 12:05 AM

So what about when drews incomplete pass was whistled dead before anyone touched it and all of sudden "ball was fumbled and recovered by lions" even though one official stopped the play? Still want to blame the refs?
How about when Stafford slid for a TD on 3rd down when his back knee was easily down without the ball crossing the pylon? Still want to blame the refs

Grow a pair you sore loser

jnormand 01-08-2012 12:11 AM

I don't like Shwartz. I love aggressive coaches and enjoy emotional ones. But I hate cry baby poor sports. It's ok to be upset after a loss but you still need to be classy. I can't stand him. I think his attitude reflects upon his team. They will never be great while he is coach.

Beastmode 01-08-2012 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 365336)
So what about when drews incomplete pass was whistled dead before anyone touched it and all of sudden "ball was fumbled and recovered by lions" even though one official stopped the play? Still want to blame the refs?
How about when Stafford slid for a TD on 3rd down when his back knee was easily down without the ball crossing the pylon? Still want to blame the refs

Grow a pair you sore loser

Stafford's TD was legit. I watched it on a 5X8 screen from 10ft away. It was close, really close, but he got it. I don't blame the refs though on the the Brees fumble because the ball went forward. In real time it looks like a pass. No ref could make that call IMO.

The Dude 01-08-2012 12:16 AM

Cant you get fined for talking smack about refs?

SaintsBro 01-08-2012 01:09 AM

I don't want to comment too much without reading his actual quotes or hearing the actual press conference, but the Lions WERE holding as well, and not getting called for it. To the credit of the league I felt that this was a CLASSIC playoff game instance of "letting the teams play the game," where the officials become more loose, removed themselves, letting the players push the rules to the limit, and only calling penalties when it blatantly affected the specific outcome of the particular play. Many ticky-tacky calls were not called that could have gone both ways.

WHO_DAT_CAT 01-08-2012 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 365267)
Crying after the game, Schwartz blames officials for lack of holding calls and quick whistles for part of the outcome.

Loser.

Douche bag. Good news: We won't have to listen to him anymore this season.

I am so tired of listening to coaches whinge about the refs after they lose. It is bad coaching.

RailBoss 01-08-2012 02:09 AM

Typical Cinderella Coach comments, a shame though the guy has brought The Lions back as a contender.

Choupique 01-08-2012 04:13 AM

Yea, the Saints have never had bad calls against them.
One word: Hockuleeee!

Some of us have a memory.

After the chest bumping episode with harbaugh and now this example of a coach whining like a little beotch
I am now completely reaffirmed and vindicated in my deep seeded belief that the Detroit Lions ownership and
team are a bunch of classless phuckin asshats.

Ask Barry Sanders.

Choupique 01-08-2012 04:18 AM

Their quarterback grew up around Dallas. nuff said.

SloMotion 01-08-2012 06:24 AM

I didn't see the refs as a factor in the game and if Schwartz implied they were, he should be ashamed, but in his defense, it sounded to me more like he was blaming our own defense, which he should. Football's about blocking & tackling, we didn't tackle.

This attitude/perception permeating throughout the Lions really bothers me and I do see Coach Schwartz as a source of some of lack of mental toughness on the Lions. He's done a great job with the team, but there's a lot of room for improvement in this very important area of the team because players like Suh & Young follow his lead.

Oh well, it's not about the Lions anymore, you guys saw to that . . . congrats . . . I thoroughly enjoyed the LiveChat and best of luck the rest of the way. Black & Gold is a class act and HOF in my book.

gone fishin'.

Saint_LB 01-08-2012 06:41 AM

They got screwed on that one play and it might have possibly made a difference. Yes...the whistle blew...but should it have? Don't they tell the refs to let the play play-out and then they can always go back and change it?

When the whistle blows...they can't do nothing about that.

I was concerned in the 1st half that it was going to be one of those days...and then the Saints came out in the 2nd half looking like the Saints we expected. I have to admit that the Lions seemed to quit when that play went against them.

At the end of the game, it seemed obvious who the better team was...but my only point is that it didn't seem obvious the whole game. JMO, though.

OldMaid 01-08-2012 08:05 AM

Schwartz's hc position is safe. DetLions won't fire him. He and his staff had a steller year with DetLions.
1st, 2nd qrtrs. were tight. It looked like either team had a chance to win this one. It was back and forth and back and forth.
DetLions made some of those football mistakes. saints did too. Some of those mistakes are just hard to figure why it happened for either team. It happens in all games. Bress almost had an interception there and the ball went right through DetLions hands. That a huge mistake on DetLions. That was a huge mistake on Saints part too. Fate just intervened there in Saints favor.

Tobias-Reiper 01-08-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 365417)
They got screwed on that one play and it might have possibly made a difference. Yes...the whistle blew...but should it have? Don't they tell the refs to let the play play-out and then they can always go back and change it?

When the whistle blows...they can't do nothing about that.

But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing.

In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened.

Saint_LB 01-08-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 365428)
But the whistle blew right when the ball hit the ground, BEFORE anyone had possession, which caused the entire Saints team to stop playing.

In reality, they didn't get screwed, because the original call was an incomplete pass... on the contrary, the referee corrected the call, which was the right thing to do. That in Schwartz's mind that should have been a scoop and score, that's another matter, but if the whistle doesn't blow, the entire Saints team goes for that ball, and who knows what would've happened.

I agree...and further I really don't believe that the ref intentionally blew the whistle. You can't deny, though, that you've seen the same thing happen and the whistle didn't blow and the other team scored. I really don't know what would have happened last night had the whistle not blown.

You are right, also, that technically due to the circumstances it should have remained the Saints ball if the whistle did in fact blow before the Lions recovered.

So...in a way, the refs made up for the fact that there was an inadvertant whistle, and the Lions got the ball and didn't do anything with it...they had their chance.

Summation. Blowing the whistle was a mistake but not intentional. We don't know how the play would have turned out if it didn't blow...like you said, the Saints may have tackled him immediately and they would have had the same relative field position that they ended up with.

Playoff experienced, championship caliber teams find a way to overcome the adversity, in the end, and that's what the Saints did and what the Lions need to figure out to get to the next level...but they do have the makings of a future great team.

ScottF 01-08-2012 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 365279)
He was not happy at all. I'll bet he will regret some of those comments tomorrow.

It was the heat of the battle, and he lost control.

Hmmm, maybe his players are a direct reflection of their coach

Very true.
They did play a much more disciplined game this time around, though. I was surprised they only had a PF call, and it was pretty weak


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